Haiku a decade later

What do you think Will haiku take off within the next decade or do you think it’s still going to be a niche thing for quite a while what’s your guys’s thoughts on this if haiku goes main stream be a bad or good thing and why

I think Haiku is here to stay and will continue being developed by a small enthusiastic group of hobby developers.
Maybe the user count or even the developer count increases a bit,but I don’t think it will reach mainstream.
Everyone is talking about Linux nowadays,still the marketshare is somewhere around 3%,the rest using the proprietary crap that came preinstalled,Windows or MacOS.
Haiku is great,but many people don’t even know it exists and I don’t see that changing soon.

But maybe that isn’t really a bad thing.
There seems to be a trend that,once something gets popular,enshittification begins and stuff becomes really awful to use.
Haiku survived the last 20 years without enshittification so far and it fills it’s niche of productive desktop computing really good.

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We would also need more people to moderate the forums and package manager unless we want it to end up like arches AUR repo with people constantly ddosing it and trying to upload malware to it

Haiku is about the computer that could have been, and then building it. It’s a cool motto and vision.

In 10 years, I hope we’ll see a 1.0 release. I don’t expect it to reach 1% market share, but for those who discover it, a hidden gem.

Today, it’s not even possible for me to use it as a daily driver, no matter how much I want to. If in 10 years that’s still the case, then I fear it might have been a one-sided love all along

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I am trying to though at lest I have a somewhat usable web browser and libreoffice works :]

my attempt to daily drive haiku

What would “taking off” actually mean? Millions of users? The Haiku dev team being named Time Persons of the Year? Haiku, Inc building an imposing new headquarter?

[Gazing into crystal ball] Nope, not gonna happen.[stop gazing]

I’m with nipos on this. Sure, there’s room for growth, but unless some AI billionaire in need of a hobby starts a computer company that pre-installs Haiku, we will remain very, very niche. A small, squabbling family of enthusiasts. But still a family.

And that’s not a bad place to be.

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I don’t think we’d have significant scaling issues in those areas.
The forum already has 5 admins and 14 moderators,that’s quite a lot for the few activity we have here and there’s a lot room for more activity.
And if more people join the community,I’m sure we’d find more moderators.

I don’t see any risk of HaikuPorts ending up like the AUR,because nobody can just upload whatever they like.
Everyone can suggest changes as Pull Request,but some trusted team member with commit rights (a moderator,so to speak) has to approve each change.
Besides that,there are third-party repositories with their own rules and own set of packages,but that’s outside of Haikus responsibility.

To protect from people DDoSing it (or really,just to fulfill a growing demand of downloads),repository mirrors could be set up.
Many people have already offered to do that,myself included,but it’s not wanted yet due to missing security features that prevent mirrors from manipulating packages.
If demand for more bandwidth is there,I’m sure the mirror system can be completed and enabled.

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AmigaOS is going on 40 years… I think Haiku
has the potential…

We can say we knew Haiku before it went into the big leagues…

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I wouldn’t say necessarily taking off like millions of users but probably the level that Linux is at right now but My bet is about the same as yours

You could say we were early beta testers before things kicked off but that’s both bit of a speculation and stretch

So, tens of millions then. Sounds good!

I should have looked into that more before I said that but yeah :smiley:

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When Atari came out with the new VCS, I was hoping someone there would have an interest in Haiku and adopt it as their desktop OS of choice (you can boot an operating system installed on an external USB device). And, maybe, get their AMD pals to write a driver for, at least, the WiFi card.

all kinds of bsd take 0.01% PC market.

if haiku get 0.1%, i think it’s good enough.

before it, haiku should be maturity。

I hope to see a full implementation of ipv6.

Isn’t that billions? I think android counts

Naaa, Haiku league is desktop OSs, so no, Android doesn’t belong here.

Linux isn’t, so is your argument that it isn’t compareable?

I don’t think that’s the right number to look at. For a free software project, having billion of users like Android’s ones will not oring us much. They won’t pay us anything and most of them wont take part in the community.

I hope we can build a world where people have a better relationship with their computers, software, and the people who build those. Maybe some of them learn how to build software and hardware, or at least get a better understanding of how these things work.

I don’t care if this world ends up being a few hundred to a few thousands users. Sure, we will be better with a slightly larger budget to hire a second developer full-time, and/or with more people writing apps, books, documentation, and so on. We would be better if some hardware manufacturer would notice us and provide some help with writing drivers. These things may come indirectly from having lots and lots of “passive” users that don’t really take part in the community, but maybe there are other ways.

So that’s what I’d like to see in 10 years: more bugs fixed, more people working full-time on Haiku, more applications. More randomly meeting Haiku users in unexpected places (other than opensource shows and events where theyecame specifically to meet us).

And, if all goes well, moving past the R1 release and cleaning up some of the technical debt in the API (while keeping support for old apps).

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it is not possible.

this is the problem in any open source project.

you know that many young people have no skill to play game with PC.

yeah,guess what…

more and more people live in smart phone.

they see the PC , JUST LIKE we saw 1960-time.

(in 14th reason《doctor who》, people forgot how to walk. :rofl: