I totally agree with what @PulkoMandy says.
It would be nice to grow the community and maybe make more people interested in learning to program and contribute.
This is a very welcoming project where it’s easy to start and get your first commit into the Haiku source.
Attracting billions of users who only take our resources (support, bandwidth, etc.) without giving anything back and without caring how it all works won’t help the project.
That’s why I also said:
There will always be some people who are into computer things. If we can make it so there are a few hundred or a few thousands more of them, I think that’s already success.
Surely if the goal is to reach millions of people, you have better chance of doing so by starting a Youtube channel (or whatever social media is trending this week), not an operating system. There are indeed many people who do that very successfully, including some who also happen to write operating systems, and some also with communities who contribute in many ways. But people do not learn as much by watching someone else do things, as by learning to do things yourself. And, for me, one important part of that, is being in control of your computer, and able to run whatever software you want on it.
Wether it is my work on Haiku and apps for it, or my other projects (retrocomputing, electronics, …), that is what I enjoy doing: building computers where I can understand every part. In this world where there are computers everywhere, I think this is a kind of important skill as well. And I hope more people will want to join that, in whichever way they choose. It liekly won’t be everyone, but, the more the better!
What is missing for you to make it your daily driver?
For me it is Disk Encryption (legal requirement) and Multi Monitor Support (Convenience)
you know that many young people have no skill to play game with PC
Honestly, I don’t see this in Russia. And I believe Europe still has a strong PC culture as well.
In Japan it’s probably quite different though.
The Haiku dev team being named “Time Persons of the Year” for four consecutive years.
Haiku has 4.26% market share.
i mean China.
really?
Surely, you mean Linux, right? At that point, Haiku is barely a rounding error when it comes to global OS usage.
Haiku has about 30% market share on my personal computer collection:
Thinkpads:
x201 (i7 1st gen / 8 GB RAM)
x301 (Core2Duo SU9400 1,4 Ghz / 4GB RAM)
T430 (i5 3rd gen / 16 GB RAM)
T460s (i5 6th gen / 24 GB RAM)
Yoga 15, Triple Boot (8 GB RAM)
Sony Vaio VGN-P11z
Desktop:
IMac 2017 (i7 / 32 GB RAM)
We are collecting wishes for the next decade here ![]()
We made it to IEEE Spectrum a few years ago: https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-dawn-of-haiku-os
Isn’t that even better?
(I still have a printed copy of it at home, as one of my friends was reading it at work and unexpectedly found a picture of me there).
Thanks for asking! So you’re missing those two, maybe soon.
To daily drive Haiku, I’d need a native browser that supports the latest web tech, working 2D/3D acceleration, and reliable Bluetooth audio. I could also use the convenience of Multi Monitor support.
With a capable native browser, I could get by with some web apps like Slack and Discord that I’m also missing.
To fully replace Windows or macOS, though, I’d need Photoshop, the Unity Engine, a simple video editor, and a built-in screen recorder app, but that might be too far off
There’s OpenShot and Gimp that’s been ported over I think but eh
Since Adobe still does not support Linux, i fear Photoshop for Haiku might be some time off
Featurewise, with Falkon and Iceweasel we have quite capable Browsers on Haiku, but the stability (of these browsers) is not there yet to let my mother use it.
I don’t know your needs but did you take a longer look at Krita?
At first sight i put it in a »painting-mangas-drawer« but in the meantime it’s an fine alternative for me and i was addicted to PSD since version 2.5.
Also interchanging .psd-files between Krita and PSD surprised me in a good way.
I completely forgot about krita that is actually a very nice program
I see a programmer holding a beer… His work is probably based on Be(er) OS ![]()
Don’t drink and code I’ve Heard some horror stories about that of some applications being created with absolute pasta code because of that ![]()
Thanks for asking! I’m glad Krita has worked for you. I’ve tried walking away from Photoshop a few times, but there are some key things missing for me. None of the options truly meet my needs.
With Krita, there aren’t true Smart Objects which are crucial for my workflow, and while it has file layers, they’re not quite the same. There are also no artboards for handling multiple files at once, no content-aware fill, and the vector tools are pretty basic compared to Photoshop.
I also use Photoshop animation tools to illustrate game designs fairly quickly among other toolsets.
Krita is really built for painting and illustration first, not heavy design or photo-editing workflows, I believe. Affinity Designer and Apple’s Pixelmator are getting close, and Photopea is getting fairly close to Photoshop CS2 (2012) which is super impressive.
Photoshop’s on-device performance leaves much to be desired. Bugs keep lingering for years, and probably never resolved which is pretty insane for such an expensive subscription-based software
I have Iceweasel. I mean it’s good to have that option for now, it lets you access today’s web, but it’s not a pleasant experience. I wouldn’t let mine use it either
I’ve been personally using floorp it seems to work all right for me now other than the typical black box and lag