Wireless card list?


#1

Is there a maintained list of supported hardware, especially wireless devices, available? I’m considering getting an old(er) laptop, and for me, wireless support is a must. I see that the ThinkPad T400 is a good option, but wanted to consider others before making a purchase. I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a list, but from looking through the website and searching online, I’m beginning to think there isn’t one.

It seems to be that any serious OS website should be able to point people to a list of what it known to work. I see this website https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/workshop-wlan.html has a link to a hardware list at https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/wireless#hardware-notes, but the page doesn’t exist. Does anyone check these things?

There is an unofficial compatability list here http://besly.de/index.php/en/hardware/unofficel-compatibility-list
I also found https://sites.google.com/view/hardware-list-for-haiku/home. Neither look authoritative.


#2

There’s https://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/HardwareInfo but I agree an online search leads to many dead links (which is bad).


#3

Ah nice. Thank you. It seemed there should be a list of supported devices, vs. a random list of tried configurations. If someone put some functionality in the kernel (drivers, etc), it should be documented somewhere officially.


#4

I already removed that link from the document a few weeks ago, but it’ll only hit the website after a manual export. Haiku is a tiny project and so it happens that some things go unnoticed. We rely on our users to file tickets at the bug tracker.

Funny thing, in that same sentence you found the dead link in is a link to all supported FreeBSD wireless drivers…


#5

For wifi, basically the answer is “what works in FreeBSD, also works in Haiku”. We share the same drivers.


#6

Type in ‘wireless’ in the search box on haiku-os.org.
That takes you to https://www.google.com/search?as_epq=site%3Awww.haiku-os.org&as_q=wireless
The first link (leading to https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/welcome/fi/wifi.html) shows a message saying 404 not found and suggesting to use Search (I guess that’s the search box).

Type in ‘hardware’ in the search box on haiku-os.org.
That takes you to https://www.google.com/search?as_epq=site%3Awww.haiku-os.org&as_q=hardware
The third link (leading to https://www.haiku-os.org/node/4390/) same thing.

So it looks like the user is advised by the 404 page to use the same method that landed him on the 404 page.

Maybe adding a link there that leads to the homepage is helpful, as the FAQ link on the homepage will help to find many answers (including this one). Or give direct links to both the home page and the FAQ page.


#7

Thanks Google Search for such amazing results! <3


#8

A better check for old hardware running on Haiku (almost testet with older nightlys) are the tests of chaotic in the past:

http://old.besly.de/menu/search/archiv/artikel/chaotic_hardwaretests.html


#9

Wow Pulko, that was so easy. So helpful.
It’s not that simple. Some of those search results brought me to 404 error pages or websites which aren’t on haiku-os.org, and are often outdated.
So you want your authoritative content on other people’s websites?

I understand and appreciate that Haiku is a small project, and I understand that developers (myself included) are famous for poor documentation. But it doesn’t have to be that way, and important information shouldn’t require an expedition to find.


#10

Well, I don’t get how Google can index 404 pages and think they are relevant search results. These pages should not be in the search results at all, it’s nonsense.

If you find dead links in our pages, we will happily fix them (and others have already done so). But in Google search results? Nothing we can do. I’m a bit grumpy that with the new website engine we are outsourcing our search facility to Google and loose control over it. The same Google Search that insists on naming us “Haiku OS” and not just “Haiku”, despite all meta tags in our html saying otherwise.

As for poor documentation, the user guide is quite well maintained and readable. I can’t say the same for our developer documentation, indeed, but at least the user parts I consider quite good.


#11

Basically almost, but not quite yet.


#12

With the caveat that the FreeBSD manual pages do not always advertise support for all supported chipsets, and some advertised don’t work. Often the easiest thing is to google the model number of the card and “FreeBSD wifi”. This will usually find a manual page and perhaps forum topics about the card’s usage in FreeBSD.

The HardwareInfo page is generally accurate too; but we should probably update it.