We need more idea or model to get more cash

small businesses need better solutions than the SAS model that’s eating the razor thin margins they eek out. I’d happily pay for a Accounting system that was relatively feature complete and as capable as QuickBooks from 2005

I don’t know where you are, but in the UK there is a superb and low-cost accounting program called VT Transaction.
It runs rings around all of the better-known offerings, like Sage.

BTW, it’s like QB in many ways, but a lot better.

is it available for haiku ?? if not it’s useless as i already have QuickBooks

I shall be trying it with WINE.

But, having used Quickbooks and many other programs, I can tell you that it is substantially better than any of them.

Gadgets can be nice, but maybe given that one of the main troubles with Haiku is to find the right combination of hardware that can run it, it might be a good strategy to put up a shop in partnership with some hardware producer to sell on the Haiku website Laptops that are certified to be Haiku compatible. If they are cheap they can be an easy way for people to try Haiku without having to go crazy on finding the right hardware themselves.

I mean a relationship like the one System76 and PopOS has is not unreasonable, but in the case of Haiku it would probably have to start on Haiku itself as people usually don’t search explicitly for Haiku laptop, but might get interested if they see from the OS website that they are available.

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We are not even able to write all drivers for our own laptops. Mine has no sound, no webcam, no external displays currently. Who is going to sell hardware with an “official” OS with this level of support? And with a target of, what, a few hundred users?

If they want to do it, they can hire a developer to write the needed driver. It doesn’t have to be the core Haiku team.

We are just not yet ready for mainstream developments like this. Let’s finish the OS first.

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I don’t think haiku is ready to be a real alternative for any company yet. Because in addition to productivity, safety is also part of it. There are only single users and no password query when the system starts, the network area is certainly not ready yet, so a bank would be completely attacked from the back.

Of course someone could, if they want to, write software that works for a snack bar or pizza shop, for example (create/manage customers, place and pass on orders, create invoices…). I think something like that would definitely work.

But when it comes to security, I don’t think any company is going to walk away from windows or mac right now.

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But why would someone use Haiku for it? In the current state it really brings more problems than solutions. Unless you are in a very specific case where you can take advantage of things like indexed attributes, for single-application systems, Haiku doesn’t really have this much to bring.

Where Haiku has potential, I think, is in usage on a regular desktop/laptop computer with many apps interacting together. But we don’t have the many apps yet, and so this potential is largely unexplored. And writing a single app will get us only one step closer to it.

That’s right, above all there are already many solutions in circulation and nobody will be happy to deal with something untested and completely new if ready-made solutions already exist.

It was just meant to be noted where I could imagine that.

How was, I think that’s exactly it. We should first complete the system and eliminate the many small and large problems before we dare to enter the big market. Because once you’ve started with it, you have to provide the necessary support. With a circle of developers who develop haiku as a hobby, that would be too much and also not possible privately.

However, I could imagine that you would look for a client PC that is not only sufficient as RDP and that is recommended for haiku, so that people can use and test haiku on hardware without endangering their current system. My experiences with some client PCs are good, there are already one or the other (older) that runs well with Haiku.

But the whole thing is tied to costs that Haiku couldn’t afford at the moment.

maybe haiku can have Primitive accumulation from Africa.
i know lots of african sell chinese old computer to their homeland.
these hardware are old enough to be supportted by haiku.
african love music very much, why not haiku which is the media system from beos?

am i right?

and if bank is too hard, then what about normal store?
Self Employed just need simple application or software.

It’s certainly not that easy, because haiku also has a minimum requirement

Even these “small” self-employed people have their regulations and guidelines. These will also use software that is already available and will not try anything completely new

But you can start creating such software or look for someone to do it, no one will object to that. The Haiku core team has enough to do with the system and software like this has to come from outside

However, for a satisfactory user experience, we recommend at least a Pentium4 with 512 MiB of RAM and 3 GiB of storage space. For compiling Haiku within itself, we recommend using at least 2 GiB of RAM.

the most new computer with Pentium4 is from A.D. 2005.

Old model is donate button by paypal, new model is on youtube, a value of visit changing on money. OR amazon model a drop shipping? You car a vehicole in storege for external clients.

  • There are forum talks of marketing items like coffee cups and personal apparel.
  • Maintain 1-2 laptops ‘supported’ and/or ‘certified’ by the OS provider or a third-party supporter.

Inspire and support people using/developing/porting applications on or for Haiku:

Bring more awareness to Haiku merchandise and expand product selections:

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I’ll buy a Walter tee shirt if they had them.

I think there are some images of Walter that are somewhere in the Haiku website repo files - I’ll find those and see if I can get Freewear to turn that into a T-shirt design :slight_smile:

Edit: must have remembered incorrectly - can’t seem to find it there. If anyone has a high quality image of Walter (or knows where it is) please let me know.

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I found a Walter logo here but dunno if it is hi-quality enough:

Edit: When zooming in, it gets pixeled. So I guess it’s not suitable for a shirt. But maybe for a mug?

Maybe some graphics wizard can redraw it as a vector graphic?

The vector version (WonderBrush): artwork/walter.wb at master · haiku/artwork · GitHub