Video flamewar

Not all of us want to download a video file in order to watch it.
Throw it up on YouTube or something.

Not all of us want to visit Big Tech crapsites full of ads,trackers and hostility against non-mainstream browsers.
Thanks for not using Craptube :+1:

Here in Basilisk,the video plays in a clean page with only the video itself,nothing else,and no need to download.
If that doesn’t work for you,it’s probably because your browser doesn’t support video playback at all (WebPositive doesn’t) and so it downloads it instead.

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Okay? Then don’t go there. Problem solved.

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Stop recommending shitty Big Tech platforms,Problem solved too.

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Stop recommending against YouTube and just use it like every other normal person. Problem also solved.

Sadly, I can’t see @8bitdboy’s comments as they were already flagged by the time I got here but… I can say this: @nipos… you constant “crap-this”, “shit-that,” is counter-productive to the message you seem to want to convey (to which I may agree, but your language/tone makes it difficult to “side” with you).

Not every thread needs to devolve in a “crusade against big-tech”, specially if it will involve childish language.

Edit: now I can see @8bitdboy original comments… shame on whoever flagged them. Pro tip: that button is not for you to click if you just disagree with a comment.

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Thank you! Seriously! I didn’t even say it had to be YouTube. I said “YouTube or something”, implying some sort of video hosting site – didn’t have to be YouTube. Had he just recommended a video hosting platform other than YouTube, that would have been fine, but for some reason he just feels the need to give this whole spiel about how YouTube is the devil-incarnate and will surely lead to the end of western civilization as we know it! as if we are also somehow going to just automatically align with the cause and do the right thing just because he said YouTube is the big bad.

I told you that the video linked above plays just fine in a browser (Basilisk,where I tried it) and doesn’t need to be downloaded.
Sure I could have linked https://vidlii.com which is a nice and lightweight video hosting site,but again,there are zero reasons to reupload a perfectly working video.

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Okay? I don’t use basilisk, nor do I want to switch to yet another browser, especially one that isn’t very well-known. Also, I didn’t know what basilisk was. Last I had heard, basilisk was a Macintosh emulator. For all I knew, it was a video hosting platform.

there are zero reasons to reupload a perfectly working video.

For you, but if I have that issue, then clearly, I can’t be the only one experiencing that issue, and I also doubt most people want to download and install a whole new web browser to solve an edge-case problem that only occasionally pops up.

You really need to take the time to focus on how you write and how you come across to others, as you come across as extremely combatative and pedantic.

Retried in LibreWolf and the video also plays just fine.
Same should be true for all other Firefox variants.
As I also said in my first post,it’s probably a WebPositive-only issue since WebPositive currently doesn’t support video playback at all.
Direct links to video files will be downloaded,so that you can play them in MediaPlayer instead,videos embedded into websites are just broken because WebPositive can’t handle them.
That’s a long-known issue.

A really, really pointless discussion.

If you install any modern browser the video would have just played when clicking the link to the video. Easy, just the file, directly playing in your browser. (excluding webpositive, it doesn’t do video wither way)

It doesn’t matter if either of you thought you are on the “right” side, there is such a thing as just not responding. The initial comment was pointless, but so were the comments after it.

I’m unhiding the posts since there are no direct insults, but I don’t want to see this discussion again >.>

Consider both of you warned, with my moderators hat. :slight_smile:

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Brave isn’t a modern browser?

Well, just dig the forum, IIRC there was a discussion about it. If you appreciated this thread, you may find fun the one about Brave. Personally, I think that browsers sources are already containing enough lines of code to not add unneeded stuff.

The fact that streaming platforms are still in use at all means that the media-playback features of HTML5 have ultimately hit a brick wall. They killed Flash but have room for improvement. The only reason for using YouTube that remains is commercial-funded viewing enforced by Google’s Widevine DRM. This clearly is not the case with a game demo.

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I never said it had to be YouTube, just some sort of video hosting platform.

I know it’s the off-topic category. But do we really need this type of discussions?

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Yes and no… depends on how it goes. If it ends up being a heated “flame war” then no, we obviously don’t need such a thing.
On the other hand, none should be afraid saying YT and the company behind it is what it is. Same with GitHub and M$. Of course, I have no intention to post about that no matter what the discussion is. But if it fits the context, I don’t think it hurts anyone if I express a negative opinion about those companies. If someone loves them (uhhh… really?) they should not feel personally offended. Conversely, if someone tells me Haiku / FreeBSD / OpenBSD sucks, I won’t be offended either. I would probably smile and won’t even bother answering.

I do not think this thread is a “flame war”, really. @nipos freely expressed his opinion - to which I totally agree - and he did well. If he were to be punished for that, then something would be very wrong with this forum.

What basically happened here is this: @8bitdboy was using WebPositive (which I applaud), but forgot it won’t play videos. Asked for uploading the video on YT or something. @nipos objected this. They interchanged a few messages, and that was all. Hard to call this a “flame war”.

Freedom of speech should be nonnegotiable.

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Here we go again. Of course all persons involved have the right to express their opinions. All over the internet and hopefully also in the physical world. Do I really have to explicitly state that? I think it was quite obvious that the context of my question was if we really have to discuss this stuff (again and again) here on the Haiku forum? And nobody (certainly not me) was talking about punishing anybody.

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Well, according to Nipos, we do, it seems.

I’m not using W+, though. I’m not even on Haiku right now. I even stated I use Brave. Nipos just assumed I was using Haiku and W+.
It wasn’t just that Nipos objected to YouTube, it was that I suggested throwing that video up on a video hosting platform, but because I used the word YouTube, he decided to go on his diatribe about how YouTube is the devil-incarnate and will surely lead to the fall of western civilization as we know it, rather than taking a more tactful approach by simply suggesting one such alternative video hosting platform. His approach is beyond abrasive and combatative, and he really needs to focus on how he comes across to others.

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