Manual install of a previous version of HaikuDepot software

ArDrakho · July 19, 2025, 9:32pm

Until our package management system matures with more options to better manage what each different user wants to be loaded and not to be updated, how do I “INSTALL” the previous version of kMyMoney (v. 5.1.3x) WITHOUT the HaikuDepot managing it?

Moreover, I do not want HaikuDepot ever to update it to a different level or to update it–always keep at that level.

Also, I DO NOT want to boot to a different system level to reclaim it either.

I want to manually install kMyMoney (v. 5.1.3x) and maintain myself.

Is there a way to do this?

nephele · July 19, 2025, 11:41pm

HaikuDepot does not update software unless you request it to explicitly, so not sure where you got that from.

If you want to keep an older version of something you can use pkgman update instead of SoftwareUpdater, the latter always does the equivalent of a full sync which will update all packages.

ArDrakho · July 20, 2025, 12:18am

Yes…initially it is HaikuDepot and then SoftwareUpdater. I meant SoftwareUpdater. I use that to update the system.

ArDrakho · July 20, 2025, 1:56am

So do I uninstall kMyMoney using HaikuDepot first?

How do I install the version I want into my Home/apps directory?

wzeyctfvgtgfrycthe2n · July 20, 2025, 2:53am

it seems by user guide just select the package and select uninstall. else use pkgman

https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/applications.html#hpkg

madmax · July 20, 2025, 3:37am

If you don’t clean up “snapshots” and you had it installed sometime, you’ll find the package in /system/packages/administrative/state-[something]/kmymoney-5.1.3-[whatever].hpkg. You can pass that path to pkgman install and it will try to update your current version to the one there. But it may not be that easy: it seems the libraries used also changed, so you may have to hunt down some dependencies.

And then a full update will overwrite it with the latest version. I don’t know of a way to pin versions, so I guess you’d have to use pkgman update as nephele says and pass it only the packages that you are interested in updating. If you are willing to get your hands dirty, you may be able to create an empty package that states conflicts: kmymoney >= 5.2.0 or something like that; installing it would prevent an update to kMyMoney without uninstalling that empty package first.

madmax · July 20, 2025, 5:01am

Copy this bash script, set its executable bit and run it like, say pin.sh kmymoney 5.1.3-2 or whatever. It will create a package in the current directory that depends on that exact version of that package. Install it and the automatic updates issue should be gone.

#!/bin/bash

if [ $# -ne 2 ]; then
        1>&2 printf "%s package_name version-revision\n" "$0"
        exit 1
fi

PKG=$1
VERSION=$2
PINFO=$(mktemp)

> "${PINFO}" printf 'name pin_%s
version %s
architecture any
summary "Pin %s %s"
description "Pin %s %s"
vendor local
packager nobody
copyrights none
licenses none
provides {
  pin_%s
}
requires {
  %s==%s
}
' "${PKG}" "${VERSION}" "${PKG}" "${VERSION}" "${PKG}" "${VERSION}" "${PKG}" "${PKG}" "${VERSION}"

package create -b -i "${PINFO}" "pin_${PKG}-${VERSION}-any.hpkg"
rm "${PINFO}"

ArDrakho · July 20, 2025, 5:37am

Interesting script…I will try it. Thanks!

Begasus · July 20, 2025, 12:05pm

Would be nice to hear if something is wrong with KMyMoney (granted last update maybe should stay on KF5), but so far I haven’t seen a issue created for it at haikuports?

A PR at haikuports would be enough to change this. Help is always welcome.

EDIT: for the record, pushed a build for KMyMoney using KDE 5 frameworks, this can be installed (will conflict with the KF6 version) with: pkgman install kmymoney_kf5.

ArDrakho · July 20, 2025, 5:34pm

Actually, there is no functional issues with kMyMoney. With that being stated, there was a UI/UX change in the transaction form using the ledger: the KDE team decided to remove the tabs (Withdrawal, Transfer, Deposit) in the latest version/update.

I reported the bug…the KDE team stated, there was another similar ticket, it is how the new version will stay. They claim it was confusing users…IMO is BS.

So, if I can stay at this level, it works for me. In Linux and Windows, I can keep the version that works for me, but I would like to Haiku at the same level too. That way all systems are kept in sync and I can interoperate between PCs.

Since Haiku is my daily driver for most things I do, I would like the same vetsion on my PCs.

Begasus · July 21, 2025, 5:23am

If I understand correctly the previous version is the one you would like to keep as base? If so I could downgrade the KF5 version to that and keep the KF6 version on par with upstream (which I can’t control), it’s good that you already reported this upstream though.

ArDrakho · July 21, 2025, 2:36pm

Since this was an UI/UX change, I do not believe the KF versions matter. But for me, v5.1.3x was the last version with the tabs. V5.2x is no longer acceptable for me to use.

Begasus · July 21, 2025, 4:42pm

I can easaly push a change for the KF5 version to 5.1.3 if that is what you prefer, so far not a lot of comments received so in those cases I move forward on packaging upstream releases.
As KF5 is nearing end of live it won’t be that bad to keep 5.1.3 alive for it.

ArDrakho · July 21, 2025, 9:43pm

So how would I download it? Then install it to my /home directory?

michel · July 21, 2025, 10:51pm

download it here: Haiku Depot Server

The just drop it into /boot/home/config/packages

ArDrakho · July 22, 2025, 3:56am

I get this error:

XML Parsing Error: syntax error
Location: https://haikuports-repository.cdn.haiku-os.org/master/x86_64/current/packages/kmymoney-5.1.3-3-x86_64.hpkg
Line Number 1, Column 1:
API error: Key not found
^

Begasus · July 22, 2025, 5:28am

I’m doing a local check for 5.1.3, if things go OK I’ll push this to haikuports so you can install this, once done it should be enough to uninstall the 5.2.0 version and install kmymoney_kf5.

EDIT, build completed on buildmaster, 5.1.3 can now be installed. (also for 32bit)

Keep in mind, the KF6 version is just called kmymoney, the KF5 version kmymoney_kf5.

ArDrakho · July 22, 2025, 8:47am

Well…I downloaded and installed kMyMoney_kf5. However, all the plugins are missing.

I cannot remember—about 20-ish plugins should be installed with kMyMoney.

Thanks…BTW

Begasus · July 22, 2025, 10:05am

Could you check if there is some additional info when launched from Terminal? The actual recipe is the one that was used to build the original one, so in that regard nothing should have changed.

On first sight it seems OK here?

ArDrakho · July 22, 2025, 2:59pm

Here you go:

Welcome to the Haiku shell.

~> cd /boot/home/config/apps
~/config/apps> KMyMoney
WebConnect: Try to connect to WebConnect server
WebConnect: Connect to server failed
WebConnect: Running in server mode
Found html dir(s): (“/boot/home/config/data/kmymoney//html/”)
Found an ‘html’ folder with CSS files: “/boot/home/config/data/kmymoney//html/”
System icon theme as reported by QT: “haiku”
QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 2
QPainter::begin: Paint device returned engine == 0, type: 2
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “transaction_assign_number” “Assign next number” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “transaction_mark_toggle” “Toggle” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “transaction_mark_cleared” “Cleared” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “transaction_mark_reconciled” “Reconciled” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “transaction_select_all” “Select all” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “transaction_new” “New” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “account_reconcile” “Reconcile…” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “edit_find_transaction” “Find transaction…” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “view_show_transaction_detail” “Show Transaction Detail” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “view_hide_reconciled_transactions” “Hide reconciled transactions” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “view_hide_unused_categories” “Hide unused categories” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
kf.xmlgui: Shortcut for action “view_show_all_accounts” “Show all accounts” set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.
Found html dir(s): (“/boot/home/config/data/kmymoney//html/”)
Found an ‘html’ folder with CSS files: “/boot/home/config/data/kmymoney//html/”
~/config/apps>

–ENDS HERE