Stop bickering, guys. Take it to PM or I’ll just remove those off-topic, partly personal attack posts.
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I just like to see a LaTeXcore or LateXlive port in HaikuDepot for Beta 4!
Something students can use!
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In fact, we do agree. it’s just that points of view are different, that’s the “half empty” or “half full” discussion. No one is wrong.
You call that they contributed? 
I am not telling their contribution have a huge value. I am telling the value of their contribution is not zero. There is a slight difference here.
I don’t know about FreeBSD but Sony does contribute a lot to WebKit which they use on the PlayStation consoles. Certainly it’s not perfect but they are part of the companies who are at least trying to do something to give back in some places.
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Nobody forced FreeBSD project to use permissive license, developers are fine with proprietary changes. That is their choice made with free will. You should respect that choice. Some GPL fanatics claim that developers that choose MIT/BSD license are stupid and don’t know what they are doing. That is obviously wrong.
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Done. Love the off topic pile on. See ya
Can you give me a brief sentence describing the utility of LaTex to a mere mortal like myself? I write, so maybe it could be useful for me?
Latex is used a lot in academia to write thesis and (technical) papers. It’s also really useful for slides/presentations. It is a powerful tool which can be used to produce high quality documentation and can also help with automation to a certain degree.
For most people who write text, a normal WYSIWYG editor like libreoffice / word is sufficient enough. If you need to go beyond that because you need certain plotting features (or automation capabilities) working with latex is more convenient.
I almost use latex exclusively for my private writing (letters, invoices etc.) But also for work; we do a lot of technical documentation which needs automation and generation of reports with (git) versioning.
The learning curve is a bit steep, but depending on one’s needs it can be worth it.
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Thanks for that!
Thank you very much for taking the part in answer the question, since I by myself do not use LaTex!
My son is using it at Heidelberg University of Math and Physics, so he is the expert how to use it…
It is for a student essential to know, learn and have LaTex!
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There is some discussion about LaTex on Haiku here:
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What is new in Haiku Beta 4?
There are already some nice LaTeX editors available in Haiku (TexStudio has recently been updated).
I don’t think we need to wait for a final release of Haiku to be able to use texlive 
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It works 100% with my Ryzen 5 4500 desktop system! Sound and WiFi, too! Hopefully my nVidia 9800 GT will be supported eventually, so I can get 1080P native resolution from my Acer monitor, but everything else is good. I’m a happy wolf! 
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I know this is a bit of a Catch 22 situation, but it needs to be considered regardless. Should Haiku R1 have working 3D acceleration or hardware encoding on at least one card as a goal? Is there a way we can use FreeBSD’s drivers?
It it’s not too much of a stretch goal, it would be nice if R1 had composited Tracker and acceleration for video playback.
If I understand correctly, there is still no consensus on how to proceed on this matter.
FreeBSD switched to using linux drivers… so
I mean, does the amdgpu driver package depend fully on X.Org or would it be possible to “adapt” it to Haiku’s desktop?