Greetings from South Korea

Hello,
I can’t sure where should I start, so I just post here to say hi first.

I have no deep knowledge with programing or anything technical aspect, but I just liked how it feels to use even with the short try.

Honestly that was why I joined this forum originally. To ask how should I run Haiku with UTM on macOS properly, and stop stuck with the booting issues after installing it.

But again, I felt like I should greet first and ask around next.

Hope I can install Haiku to actual machine in the future also. Currently I only have Mac, so this is the best way to experience it to me, so far.

Wonder if I can help with Korean/Hangul support someday but, idk, no confidence in both languages yet. Having no programing knowledge is also a problem, I think.

Anyway, hi, nice to meet you. Hope I can get some good help here, and help anyone needs it in the future.

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Hi there!

What is our problem with UTM? It should work. There was a forum thread recently where someone else encountered issues, maybe with the search function your problem can be resolved quickly.

You don’t need any programming knowledge to contribute to the Korean translation, this is done with a web tool. You only need to have programming knowledge if something is marked wrongly in code (for example translations with plural forms beeing incorrectly hardcoded or so…);
However: you can simply report this in a ticket and someone else can then fix it.

Haiku works on mac machines, but not all of them. IIRC it should work properly if you have an intel processor based machine (so amd64/x86_64) that does NOT have an apple T2 chip. So stuff roughly before 2018 should be fine.
(I plan to rectify this in the future, but for now those can’t be used with their keyboard and mouse)

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Thanks for the welcome.

I should make proper post for it but, it’s a really weird case with UTM. It was successful to install it and run it once at least, but if i try to boot it again after turn it off, it just stuck in the loading screen. So I’m guessing that I keep making mistakes while setting it up, doing it wrong way.

If my knowledge with Korean/Hangul could help I will be glad. But I feel like I should run and drive Haiku first before contributing it.

I like Macs, but if there’s better way to run Haiku, I’m willing to learn about hardware aspect. Something like “Haiku Computer” could be nice for me personally. I like the idea of software and hardware works for each other.

Related question, how well does Haiku support CJK?

I think that question requires more specifittivity. We ship a CJK font from noto, yes. But that is mostly reffering to the chinese-derived alphabet. While Hangul is it’s own script.

Since neither of those are “complex” writing systems, they should work just fine. (Baring the unicode “unification”, which means you for some documents now need to know which language it was written in to properly render it…)

In a technical sense CJK should work. How well the translation is done I cannot say as I don’t speak those languages.

You have to also consider the input methods.

So, “they should work just fine” is a bit of wishful thinking.

As far as I am aware for japanese and korean you can use a keyboard layout, and for inputting chinese characters mozjs is ported and working.
edit: maybe that is the wrong name though. Can’t remember what it was called instead

I guess someone can correct me if something is still missing there?

Japanese also recuires an input method. The keyboard layout allowsyouto write in hiragana only, and the input method allows to replace them with the corresponding kanji. There are one or two implementations of this for Haiku but I don’t know what state they are in currently and how they behave with ported apps for example?

Another user from Korea came to the forum recently. They tested an input method and after a time figuring out how it is supposed to work, they seem happy with it.
The thread is here if you want to have a look.

For Japanese there is Mozc, which is available for Haiku (in the Depot) and works quite well.

Hello from China.

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You can buy a cheap or used computer, right? Haiku system requirements are very light.

Yeah, I think about it a lot. Wondering around in “garage sale app” of South Korea to find decently priced laptops and all.

It’s just, (A)I still couldn’t find “decent one”, which just means something I want to have with reasonable price, and (B)I have no confidence to manage 2 different computers at the same time, so far :sweat_smile:

Also worrying a bit about back up with Haiku too but, there must be a way for it. I will let the forum know if I get one and running Haiku on it.

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