Gemini Protocol?

I love the idea of Gemini as well.

Webpositive can already open gopher sites. Someone just needs to add gemini support :wink:

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Hi!

And how can i activate?

Because:

Not anymore since we switched to using the cURL backend instead of the Haiku native one.

There is enough work to keep WebPositive working with HTTP and HTML, it seems better to use a separate browser for the other protocols for now.

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Ahoy folks,

Besides Lagrange in HDepot there is another Gemini browser.

Kristall

I’ve found it accidentally - I try to install all browsers available on Haiku,… at least for http(s)/HTML capable ones … so I was really wondering when I wrote a site in the Kristall’s input field …
… it extended the URL with ‘gemini:’ , so it wanted to search by Gemini protocol. Now I checked [About] menu item - just for you guys :

So, iti is really a Gemini browser - not needed to force Webpositive to do it - unless someone feels the urge to enhance it with a new protocol.

Although the mass here been anticipating/awaiting much higher WebKit2 for Web+ than the new Gemini feature …

:wink:

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Im trying (very slow) made it in yab.

Using curl to gopher and gemurl to gemini ( stopped because i cant compile gemurl in32 bits haiku) working fine in 64 bits …

Now i just need… Everything else xD

Ok, I just read other poster
mameko
also written about Kristall Gemini browser above.
Well, I didn’t remember I was red it or not earlier - I was just wondering about this fact I discovered lately and share it with you when Calebin wanted to know if it can be wired into Web+.

EDIT :

Wikipedia article about the protocol enlists dozens of Gemini browsers - with really different languages used to develop and in several UIs / platforms / environments.
For example,
there is a plugin for Dillo browser, that is available in HaikuDepot.

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I feel somewhat disappointed, although Kristall has everything I was planning for my browser (and much more to be honest) I think… even for browsing gopher QT is the best option!! nothing native! It works very very well and is quite configurable.

Thank you very much for the recommendation!

I am playing around with Kristall, it seems a nice browser but on the Lo-Fi Haiku site it mangles the “Haiku” ascii art logo.

Also, is there any plans to get the blog posts up to present? Is there sufficient demand?

When installing Kristall there is an awful lot of packages that want to come with it. This seems excessive for a supposedly minimalist browser for navigating a minimalist protocol. It rather seems to go against the whole point of using Gemini.

Is there a more “native” system with fewer packages?

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There is no native gemini browser currently.

Native Gemini browser may be a good project for a novice haiku dev to cut their teeth on!

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It’s almost 2026, and information on Gemini has gotten absolutely trampled by Google’s Gemini AI. The original Gemini folks haven’t shown much interest in fighting for the Gemini trademark.

I’m a bit afraid of the Gemspace dying a slow death.

I’ll continue to support our Gemini site, but unless things change in the ecosystem.. it might get scrapped at some point. I think the canary for me will be if the Lagrange browser stops getting updates.

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With enshittification of the normal internet continuing and getting worse,I think that small lightweight alternatives like the Gemini protocol are more important now than ever before.
It’s cool that Haiku has a Gemini site (probably one of the early adopters? :smiley: )
I hope the Haiku Gemini site stays alive,and maybe other projects also add Gemini sites some day.

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1000% agree. I just worry that it’s actively difficult to find any Gemini stuff in search that isn’t “Google Gemini AI”. That doesn’t matter much because we know it exists, but it is going to absolutely stunt any further growth.

You’re only going to search for the term “Gemini” if you already know that it exists.
And then,you can instead make your search more precise with “Gemini protocol”.
Just tried,searching for Gemini returns only garbage as expected,searching for Gemini Protocol returns relevant information about that Gemini we care about.

As much as I love Gemini, let me point to the “Anybrowser” project which is against the enshitification of the web, too.

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Oh what a great website! :heart_eyes:
Why can’t more websites be like this?
Just a simple page with content to read,no bloat,no bullshit,no animations slowing down your browser,no notifications/popups/whatever trying to steal your attention,only stuff that matters.

I think the entire idea of Gemini is flawed from the start.

HTML and HTTP can be simple and straightforward. And surely, if Gamini takes up, people would start doing extension to it in a way or another and make it just as complex, and possibly more quirky than HTTP already is.

The problem is not technical. You can use the existing tech to make small and efficient websites. This isn’t solved by adding yet another protocol, a new browser stack, and, in general, more software.

It also kind of missed an opportunity by being SSL only. This cuts off old and low-power hardware which would have indeed benefited from such a simplified protocol. So, simple plain HTTP websites still win on that front. We shuold definitely have more of these :smiley:

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“to find that I’ve been rejected until I come back with Netscape or Internet Explorer“

That makes it a bit dated, doesn’t it?