Building Haiku_x64 from within Haiku_x64

[Luposian]

The build guides are designed from a knowledgeable perspective. You can’t make them any easier than they are, without changing who they’re geared towards. They are meant to cover EVERY platform, not just one platform. That’s the argument. I want something that I can go to, that has very specific instructions for JUST my use case (Building Haiku x86_64 within Haiku x86_64). I don’t want to have to “figure it out”. I want it laid out in black and white, in “Fool’s English”, as it were. And now this thread has that very thing. In less description than I imagined! But, other than my particular use case, who has the desire to create similar “pages” for different platforms that are just as simple AND maintain them!

PulkoMandy is not wrong. Maintaining a myriad of pages all “dumbed down” to the simplest instructions, such as we now have for my use case, requires more attention/devotion to an area that most developers don’t have time, energy, or desire for. I get that.

Just as you have people who say that a CLI is the ONLY way to do things, you have others that believe a GUI is the ONLY way to do things. Do you use/like “keyboard shortcuts”? I hate them. I’ve hated them since I first heard about them on the Atari 1040ST, back in the late 80’s. I only use them when I have to. I’d rather be able to use the mouse to do everything. But that’s me. If the Terminal weren’t necessary, I wouldn’t use it either. The Apple IIc and pre-Windows 95 era were the last of the CLI environments I used. But some things HAVE to be done in certain ways. So we adapt. Sometimes, begrudgingly.

I’d gladly maintain just my own use case, for others who want things laid out so plain, you’d have to be blind AND stupid not to be able to follow it. But who else wants to chase down and maintain the other use cases for other platforms? Maybe I’m an edge case and no one else cares about having such over-simplified instructions. We’re all different.

But… if there were just ONE thing that I believe would help make the build guides easier for beginners (or less knowledgeable) types, is to have a date stamp next to the word “Updated” next to each of the three links when something is changed. That would tell them that something is different inside and then, maybe, a highlight or text in red or whatever, for the changes made. Yes, it requires more attention to detail in making changes more obvious, but… I think it would help.

[PulkoMandy]

@extrowerk

We could put the buildtools as submodule into the haiku tree, jam scripts could be adjusted, so if the user request a 64 bit build on 64 bit, it would automatically check out the buildtools submodule and using that.
We can ofc. check for the host variable, if it isn’t Haiku, the build scripts could try the best to set everything up accordingly.
This would mean extra complexity in the buildscripts, probably we don’t want that because maintenance.

Actually, that would be great, because currently if you want to build an old version of Haiku, you have to “guess” which version of buildtools is needed (by looking at commit dates). Would you mind creating a ticket on the bugtracker for it?

It’s also possibly a nice easy beginner task for someone who wants to write some bash scripts

[Luposian]

Ok, here’s my new issue:

I’m running Haiku_x86_64 hrev 53971. I deleted both /haiku and /buildtools and “started over”. Ran pkgman install -y mtools cmd:python3 cmd:xorriso; nothing to update. Ran pkgman update git; nothing to update. Downloaded /buildtools and /haiku. No issues. Configured the cross-tools. Everything went fine there, too.

I go to jam -q -j2 @nightly-anyboot and… this is my full build log, start to finish.

Welcome to the Haiku shell.

~> pkgman install -y mtools cmd:python3 cmd:xorriso
100% repochecksum-1 [65 bytes]
Validating checksum for Haiku…done.
100% repochecksum-1 [64 bytes]
Validating checksum for HaikuPorts…done.
python3-3.7.6-1 from repository system is already installed.
mtools-4.0.19-1 from repository system is already installed.
xorriso-1.5.2-2 from repository system is already installed.
Nothing to do.
~> pkgman update git
100% repochecksum-1 [65 bytes]
Validating checksum for Haiku…done.
100% repochecksum-1 [64 bytes]
Validating checksum for HaikuPorts…done.
Nothing to do.
~> cd haiku
~/haiku> cd generated.x86_64
~/haiku/generated.x86_64> jam -q -j2 @nightly-anyboot
Starting build of type regular …
Building Haiku Nightly
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…found 158430 target(s)…
…updating 11698 target(s)…
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C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/AppServer.o
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C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/BitmapManager.o
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GNU xorriso 1.5.2 : RockRidge filesystem manipulator, libburnia project.

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Media summary: 0 sessions, 0 data blocks, 0 data, 284g free
xorriso : WARNING : -volid text is too long for Joliet (20 > 16)
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xorriso : UPDATE : 3 files added in 1 seconds
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C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/Canvas.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/ClientMemoryAllocator.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/Desktop.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/DesktopSettings.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/DrawState.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/Layer.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/PictureBoundingBoxPlayer.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/ServerApp.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/ServerBitmap.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/ServerCursor.o
C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/ServerFont.o
…/src/servers/app/ServerFont.cpp:27:10: fatal error: fontconfig.h: No such file or directory
#include <fontconfig.h>
^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.

/boot/home/haiku/generated.x86_64/cross-tools-x86_64/bin/x86_64-unknown-haiku-gcc -c “…/src/servers/app/ServerFont.cpp” -O2 -Wall -Wno-multichar -Wpointer-arith -Wsign-compare -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Woverloaded-virtual -Werror -Wno-error=unused-but-set-variable -Wno-error=deprecated -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations -Wno-error=cpp -Wno-error=trigraphs -Wno-error=cast-align -Wno-error=format-truncation -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -fno-builtin-fork -fno-builtin-vfork -nostdinc -DFONTCONFIG_ENABLED -DARCH_x86_64 -DBOOT_ARCHIVE_IMAGE_OFFSET=320 -D__HAIKU_PRIMARY_PACKAGING_ARCH=“x86_64” -DHAIKU_DISTRO_COMPATIBILITY_DEFAULT -DHAIKU_TARGET_PLATFORM_HAIKU -DHAIKU_REGULAR_BUILD -iquote …/build/user_config_headers -iquote …/build/config_headers -iquote …/src/servers/app -iquote objects/common/servers/app -iquote objects/haiku_host/x86_64/common/servers/app -iquote objects/haiku/x86_64/common/servers/app -iquote …/src/servers/app/drawing -iquote …/src/servers/app/drawing/Painter -iquote …/src/servers/app/drawing/interface/local -iquote …/src/servers/app/drawing/interface/remote -iquote …/src/servers/app/stackandtile -iquote …/src/servers/app/decorator -iquote …/src/servers/app/font -I …/headers/libs/agg -I …/headers/private/app -I …/headers/private/graphics -I …/headers/private/input -I …/headers/private/interface -I …/headers/private/kernel -I …/headers/private/shared -I …/headers/private/storage -I …/headers/private/support -I build_packages/freetype-2.9.1-1-x86_64/develop/headers -I build_packages/freetype-2.9.1-1-x86_64/develop/headers/freetype2 -I build_packages/fontconfig-2.13.92-1-x86_64/develop/headers -I build_packages/fontconfig-2.13.92-1-x86_64/develop/headers/fontconfig -I build_packages/gcc_syslibs_devel-8.3.0_2019_05_24-7-x86_64/develop/headers/c++ -I build_packages/gcc_syslibs_devel-8.3.0_2019_05_24-7-x86_64/develop/headers/c++/x86_64-unknown-haiku -I build_packages/gcc_syslibs_devel-8.3.0_2019_05_24-7-x86_64/develop/headers/c++/backward -I build_packages/gcc_syslibs_devel-8.3.0_2019_05_24-7-x86_64/develop/headers/c++/ext -I …/headers/glibc -I …/headers/posix -I build_packages/gcc_syslibs_devel-8.3.0_2019_05_24-7-x86_64/develop/headers/gcc/include -I build_packages/gcc_syslibs_devel-8.3.0_2019_05_24-7-x86_64/develop/headers/gcc/include-fixed -I …/headers -I …/headers/os -I …/headers/os/add-ons -I …/headers/os/add-ons/file_system -I …/headers/os/add-ons/graphics -I …/headers/os/add-ons/input_server -I …/headers/os/add-ons/registrar -I …/headers/os/add-ons/screen_saver -I …/headers/os/add-ons/tracker -I …/headers/os/app -I …/headers/os/device -I …/headers/os/drivers -I …/headers/os/game -I …/headers/os/interface -I …/headers/os/kernel -I …/headers/os/locale -I …/headers/os/media -I …/headers/os/mail -I …/headers/os/midi -I …/headers/os/midi2 -I …/headers/os/net -I …/headers/os/storage -I …/headers/os/support -I …/headers/os/translation -I …/headers/private/. -o “objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/ServerFont.o”

…failed C++ objects/haiku/x86_64/release/servers/app/ServerFont.o …

BUILD FAILURE:
…failed updating 1 target(s)…
…skipped 8 target(s)…
…updated 126 target(s)…
~/haiku/generated.x86_64>

[extrowerk]

Done. https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/15840

[extrowerk]

I would remove the generated folder and start from scratch.

[Luposian]

But… I just did that… I create the directory and configured the tools no more than about 1.5 hours ago. It said everything was fine! It got something wrong and didn’t know it?

[cocobean]

Best way to do this:

1. Ensure the kernel code was successfly built beforehand by checking for a correlating nightly image.

The one you are currently using may not have a prebuilt nightly image. So, it could just be a faulty commit. Try the latest revision, hrev54010, to retest your dev environment.

Otherwise, you may have something wrong in the dev environment. Try ‘pkgman full-sync’ for completion.
Then, review your installed packages and test compilation again This will help devs track down your issues.

[PulkoMandy]

@Luposian

…/src/servers/app/ServerFont.cpp:27:10: fatal error: fontconfig.h: No such file or directory
#include <fontconfig.h>

So it looks like fontconfig is missing.
Delete generated/build_packages/fontconfig* and generated/downloads/fontconfig* and run jam again.
There is a known bug in the code that fetches and extract packages during the build, if a download fails, it ends up with a partially downloaded or partially extracted package and that confuses the buildsystem. Deleting the partial package will make it download and extract againm hopefully correctly that time.

[Luposian]

Interesting that you should mention that, because I’ve had a bugger of a time getting Haiku to build. It keeps failing at files it’s trying to download or unpack or whatever. And I run Jam again and again and it fails at a different file each time. Finally its failing at the same file/place now. But since you’ve mentioned that, now I’m not sure what to think… is the entire thing all monkey’d up or what? The download of /buildtools and /haiku seemed to go fine. Everything else, too. Except Jam. At one point, Haiku just lost it’s Wifi connection in the middle of a Jam. Rebooted, then it seemed to work ok for awhile (Jam went a lot further), then started Build Failing at different files and… ugh!

Is there an issue with getting files during a Jam? Shouldn’t Jam just do everything offline, to prevent this kinda situation from happening? I mean, isn’t everything you need acquired in the run of pkgman and the download of /buildtools and /haiku and then running configure?

[X512]

@Luposian

Is there an issue with getting files during a Jam? Shouldn’t Jam just do everything offline, to prevent this kinda situation from happening? I mean, isn’t everything you need acquired in the run of pkgman and the download of /buildtools and /haiku and then running configure?

Jam cause download of packages that are used for building, but not need to be installed to system. Downloaded packages are stored in download folder of configure folder. If required files are already downloaded, they are reused.

[extrowerk]

@Luposian

I mean, isn’t everything you need acquired in the run of pkgman and the download of /buildtools and /haiku and then running configure?

No. Thats not true.

[Luposian]

YES!!! Hallelujah! I FINALLY got a working Anyboot .iso! I installed it to a 32Gb thumb drive and it boots perfectly! Lotsa free space, too!

[Luposian]

Very odd… I have Haiku installed on my “8-core” (4-core, 8 thread) AMD FX system, but when I go to build, the entire computer reboots during the build. Haiku doesn’t crash… the entire systems just “blips” and reboots! This happens every time! Any idea why? Seems stable otherwise, until I go to build.

[Diver]

Triple fault? Sounds like this bug https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/14082.

[Luposian]

Given my CPU/motherboard is from 2011 and seems to exhibit this behavior, would it be better for me to just sell them and upgrade to a different CPU/motherboard that isn’t affected by this flaw or hang around and see if a solution presents itself in the coming weeks?

If I do sell my CPU/motherboard, what one would be a solid Haiku replacement?

[PulkoMandy]

Or just CPU overheating and doing unexpected things.

[Luposian]

Can you explain that, when I specifically set Jam without the -j command, so it’s only using 1 core/thread and it still does it? When it has never spontaneously rebooted in Windows 10 nor Haiku under any other circumstance? Methinks you’re using too pat of an answer. This is a very unusual behavior for this system, under any OS, for any reason, for as long as my son has used it and I’ve used it. And I was mining cryptocurrency with it, at full blast, most recently and it never blipped like this. Is the AMD FX (Bulldozer) CPU known for flaking for other reasons than this one situation? I’ll gladly push it through any task to test it. Windows 10 or Haiku.

[PulkoMandy]

Ok, seems that rules out overheating, fine.

Yes, AMD Bulldozers are known to have stability problems in Haiku, and the ticket Diver linked is probably a better explanation. According to that, a possible workaround is to boot using EFI instead of legacy BIOS. Possibly updating the BIOS (if an update is available) could help, too.

[alpopa]

For AMD systems (mine is even older AMD Phenom x4) the stability may increase by disabling all but 1 core.