About Haiku funding

Newbie in the forum, but longtime fan of Haiku!

I read the financial report and had one thought to share about the potential yield of the crypto assets.

There are several reputable DeFi protocols which could easily earn 10%+ on the crypto assets while potentially reducing the price risk of Bitcoin.

  • Namely, the WBTC/USDC pool on Uniswap v3 is currently earning 18% APY. It is the biggest DeFi protocol, well audited.
  • And also the GMX GM WBTC/USDC is currently earning 30% APY on Arbitrum, the largest Ethereum L2 and a very reputable project despite being smaller than Uniswap. It is also well audited.

Given the current assets, it could stabilize the price of the crypto assets for Haiku as this amounts to selling half of the BTC now, while potentially doubling or even tripling the project funding.

I am not including links on purpose to avoid being perceived as a scam, anyone should at least double check the authenticity of each project website.

I’m sorry, but these numbers spark extreme skepticism in me. Where are they getting the funds to pay such sky high interest rates, with the latter being well beyond what even the S&P 500 yielded last year? That’s always the question I ask whenever I see such amazing returns (which are usually too good to be true), because often the answer is simply “from newer depositors’ funds”, which is just a Ponzi scheme.

I think Haiku is not very interested in getting into cryptos trading anyways.

This whole thing started because a few years ago, someone asked “hey could you accept donations in bitcoins?” and we said “sure, why not?” and set it up. Bitcoin was obscure and not worth a lot at that time.

Now the bitcoins we got are worth a lot of money and we’re just trying to figure out how to convert them to actual money. It’s not really about return rates and the like.

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How about donating in the old fasioned way,
alias, a visa card?

Thought the old-fashioned way was with a collecting tin on high street… :slight_smile:

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These are fees earned by decentralized open protocols.

That’s the (maybe comparable) fees banks take for themselves, but in blockchain decentralized apps are openly distributed to the liquidity providers.

I am a dev myself, everything is transparent and visible onchain.

Which is totally acceptable, thx for your answer… Just thought it could provide $100k/year additional funding but I understand the complexity (maybe even not doable for a 501c).

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Well, it could happen like with Celsius, I was encouraging myself to invest in that platform and shortly after it went bankrupt :frowning:

I think that with Paypal you can make a monthly subscription for example and donate, I don’t know, 2 USD per month automatically (or whatever is considered) and it sounds more stable.

There’s barely any company on this planet that Paypal doesn’t sell your data to.
Here’s the full list: List of Third Parties (other than PayPal Customers) with Whom Personal Information May be Shared
Sure,cryptocurrencies aren’t always legit,but I wouldn’t trust a shady datakraken like Paypal any more than that.
Liberapay is a nice option for monthly or weekly donations: https://liberapay.com/haiku.inc