Will AI ever be used in Haiku?

May I suggest that you try to acquaint yourself with the concept of the desktop, which is what we are talking about.

Windows accounts for around 96% of desktop operating systems. So in that respect Linux is nowhere.

Latest 2026 beachmark

Windows: ~60%–73% globally

macOS: ~15%–16%.

Linux: ~3%–4.7%

Chrome OS: ~1%–4%

So you are correct

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Do you really not understand that Mac is a different platform? We are talking about PCs, which is what Windows, Linux and Haiku are designed to run on.

I think you are just arguing for the sake of it, which is what you were doing in the discussion about Vista.

Give it a rest. Please.

What are you on about? Mac OS is a desktop OS for PCs. Always has been.

Also, how is this relevant to the topic at hand? If you’re just going to stay off-topic the whole time just give this thread a rest.

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:face_exhaling: this thread is so off topic at this point

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Truely, the issue is not the LLM-generated code. There was a time when spaghetti code was an issue.

You should ask:

  • Will a project like Haiku accept or use spaghetti code submissions?!?

The issue for you may not be with LLM-generated code, but this statement does not reflect the broad range of objections that people have posted here; many of them have more to do with the LLM part than the code part.

A (probably incomplete) list would have to include:

  • the moral/ethical/social issues with the mass-ingestion of copyrighted content necessary for creating LLMs
  • the uncopyrightable nature of generated code in some jurisdictions
  • the possibility of the LLM generating verbatim copyrighted code and the legal problems that could cause
  • the moral/ethical/social issues with the significant resource use necessary for running LLMs
  • the skill-loss and vendor dependency inherent in depending on any kind of code generator
  • the inherently untrustworthy nature of non-deterministically generated code

(Not everyone who objects to LLM code being used in Haiku or publicized on haiku’s forums views all of these issues as significant or even real, but I tried to list all the ones I’ve seen here.)

I’m sure I’ve missed at least one there, but that’s a much broader set of objections than just spaghetti code.

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The issue for you may not be with LLM-generated code, but this statement does not reflect the broad range of objections that people have posted here; many of them have more to do with the LLM part than the code part.

Agree on the legalese, and I object to certain use cases of AI/LLM (i.e. not all).
Kinda like disliking business practices of laying off 1,000 people for one computer. Makes sense on the spreadsheets, but the results can tank an entire town or city (or maybe the business)..

I think the gatekeepers mentioned the kernel code submission limitations versus application development…

I thought maybe your point was, spaghetti code was a tangible attribute that could be gauged in the object itself, where LLM origin is like ā€œcode written on a Mondayā€ Which depends on me to volunteer the information that I made some changes to the code on a Monday.

So, sure, it isn’t that bad - in April 2026, there are some tangible attributes that could be spotted in code that was substantially generated that way, so that’s part of the issue today: whether to allow code that bears evidence of assistance from April 2026 AIs, along with voluntarily reported assistance.

I’m not saying that’s a silly policy direction, it’s just something that seems likely to evolve pretty fast..

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Keep in mind that most of that number is the corporate and institutional world.

If you exclude corporations, businesses, schools, hospitals etc.. And only focus on home users (our market) The playing field shifts towards more of a balance between M$ and Apple

Anyway, your ability to go completely off-topic is absolutely fantastic :smiley:

I suspect you are talking about sales of NEW computers to home-users. And there you may be right.

But all those businesses running windows sell their computers when they are a few years old, and home-users buy them. So I think you will find that of the computers actually in use, in the home-user market, the vast majority still run Windows.

Someday I wish a mod would close this post or delete it :face_with_bags_under_eyes:

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This is a forum, and it exists for people to exchange ideas. If you don’t like the way things are going then the solution is to stop participating, not to try to censor other people.

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If you’d like your post to be closed, just flag any comment (for example this one), pick the ā€œSomething Elseā€ option, and write your close request together with the reason (i.e. the post has got really off-topic).

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You’re talking about a whole entire different topic not even related to the topic

I’m trying to write a close request but it won’t let me type into the box and I think this is just a problem on my side and I have switched to multiple browsers to get it working but it still won’t let me type in the box so I just given up and I’m just gonna wait for a mod to close it

Why don’t you try posting something on-topic?

I am not really terribly interested in repeating something so obvious that there should be no dispute. Most (IBM) PCs (ie not Apple machines), run Windows.

Now, let’s get back to AI.

Wasn’t the AI decision already made it sort of the defeats the whole point of this thread now, since they have decided not to integrate it and let people have the option to externally download AI assistive app while keeping the same hard ban on AI and ask for me posting anything on top of everything I have said has been on topic. You’re the only one here who is doing a lot of talking but still somehow talking about nothing

This generally no point in having the same AI discussion or the same reoccurring conversation if a final decision was already made it defeat the whole point

Even if the current decision will last a couple of years, there is no such thing as a final decision in software development.

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