Hi all. Long time BeOS user, detached supporter for the last few years. I’m getting ready to return to the community, and have been considering a tablet PC. What’s the best device I can get these days where I stand the best chance at running some version of Haiku?
As far as I know there are no plans for a tablet version of Haiku in the near future, if ever. If you bought one of those old x86 tablets designed for Windows XP, you might have a decent chance at getting it to run, but I doubt that it’d be particularly usable.
…I’ll try - someday - Haiku on an Olipad100 (aka Manata Zpad T2, here’s a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsNnJ78cLVs) that seems to load Windows…
Anyway, an AMD-based tablet should have good chances to work…
One that has windows on it
Acer Iconia W500 was one of the one I was thinking of getting… but that will have to wait now.
You will be needed a usb keybord connected to it so that you need to check, If you find one then tell us
It is very unlikely that anyone will be able to run Haiku on that tablet! If you watch the video closely, you will see it has a ARM V7 processor! Since Haiku does not support ARM processors at this time, you will not be able to install or run Haiku on it.
It is a shame, though. I think Haiku would be bad ass on that tablet! All the more reason to work on a ARM port!
[quote=ddavid123]It is very unlikely that anyone will be able to run Haiku on that tablet!
If you watch the video closely, you will see it has a ARM V7 processor![/quote]
You’re right, thanks.
Anyway, the suggestion is to go with an AMD-based tabled (know any ?) should be fine.
Little chance? bummer.
Considering the Be Inc. shift to internet appliances, shortly before its death. They were so close. If my “vintage” BeIA device actually had a compatible wifi card, I wouldn’t even be asking the question.
I was reading that the samsung galaxy can be hacked to run Ubuntu, was hoping that it might run Haiku as well.
Haiku will run on the Asus EP121. And presumably, on the B121.
I believe the stock wireless card was supported by Haiku.
It was very easy to upgrade the wireless to an Intel 6230 wireless card. Which Haiku also supports.
Works well with USB Keyboard & Mouse.
The USB ports are very finicky. I tried about 10 different manufacturers/speeds for USB sticks and/or SD card adaptors before I found something that would boot Haiku successfully.
Haiku did not recognise the full screen resolution.
Haiku also had a bug in the ‘touch screen’ drivers. I managed to fix this, but later, Haiku’s USB HID driver system was totally rewritten and ‘touch screen’ no longer works.
Haiku never did recognise the Wacom screen hardware (pen input) found on the EP121.
ASUS no longer sells the EP121.
I see now that you are talking about tablet and tablet pc. To me that two diffrent things. Tablet pc being a laptop with tuchscreen and tablet being a device with only a screen :). Any how Acer Iconia w500 looks intresting. Looking at this ticket http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/8289 some one have tested Haiku:D
I have Acer iconia tab W500 tablet. Haiku is working on it but with big problems:
- Touch screen is not working. I managed to make it partically working by hacking driver, but only coordinates are received, contact is not received. Of course USB mouse is working perfectly.
- Unefficient power usage.
- No sleep mode.
- Bluetooth keyboard can’t be connected
- No on-screen keyboard. Haiku has one in Keymap preflet, but it can input only in test field. Text input without keyboard is possible only by dragging keys from preflet to some window.
I did’t test network.
Haiku Rocks. I like the little operating system for its compactness, cleanliness, and speed. Speed? You bet: Here are some numbers …
|OS||Turn-on time||Turn-off time|
I should qualify some of the numbers. The Linux machine was a physical dual-processor 866, the Haiku machine was an Intel/atom 1.5 GHz netbook, and the iPad belonged to somebody else, meaning I’m not sure what was in it.
These numbers may not mean much in terms of the everyday use of a PC computer. They are important in terms of the use of a tablet. How does one typically use a tablet computer? Well, in my mind, I see the scenario where a person carries the thing to some place, turns it on for a quick this or that, and turns it off. Then the cycle repeats …
In other words, the tablet is often either being turned off or turned on, repeatedly, as part of its usual usage pattern.
Boot and shutdown speeds are important …
In actuality, the Haiku turn-off speed was 1.5 seconds. I rounded up – giving Haiku blistering speed numbers, relative to the others, and putting that speed where I want it (who wants to wait around while their computer turns itself off) ?
Haiku sports an internet browser that is (under the cover) very similar to Google Chrome and Apple Safari. In fact – it literally uses the Apple engine (AppleWebkit) as part of its
It seems to me that the Haiku has attributes that are tailor made to the tablet usage pattern. Will Haiku ever be used in the way of a mainstream operating system on tablets?
I also have the acer w500. But for me Haiku doesn’t see the ssd. The same happens on my Asus 1215b ( both run the c-50 APU ). The storage of the tablet and netbook doesn’t show up. Filled a bug report a few months back.
Atom tablets are rising and Haiku should work on them…
[quote=forart.it]Atom tablets are rising and Haiku should work on them…
This is a very bad idea. Because this requires the creation of a completely new interface. And this involves the creation of a fork\distribution.
Do we really need a fork, or just a new tracker add-on?
Amen. Let desktop be desktop, and tablet be tablet, and never the twain shall meet (THIS MEANS YOU, WINDOWS 8.)
Even if you changed the Tracker to work well with tablets, what would you do about the other software? You’d at least have to have tablet-oriented versions of WebPositive and one of the editors. It might as well be a fork, if you’re going that direction, but progress on Haiku is slow enough with only the desktop UI to maintain…
Unfortunately, Atom SOCs include a PowerVR GPU whose datasheet is not available to open source community.
Maybe if Intel switches to its HD Graphics GPU core it will be possible to use it on Haiku, you will just have to use an external keyboard.
The keyboard might need bluetooth because of the lack of USB connectors.
OK, forget about it. If you want a tablet, just choose one that suits your needs, then with time it might be possible to have Haiku compatible with tablets. By then you will probably buy a new one, technology moves so fast.
As a conclusion buy a tablet for your need.
There are two models I consider viable:
- iPad (tremendous screen, but heavy and low battery life) is ideal to read and surf at home (I am drugged)
- Nexus 7 (seems better than the Kindle Fire HD and can stand in one hand) is ideal for mobility (my next purchase)
What about this one :
With Intel Graphic
What about BenQ S6 an Atom-based sub-$100 7" tablet ?
Interesting chatiry auction here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/140896096456
nexus 7 is great … but also the new nexus 10 should appear on the market hopefully soon.
I can just give you the advice… not to sacrifice you money and buy something where haiku is working on.
- You gave great chances that the the input devices are not working
- It seems a lot of people of haiku (devs) are against tablets… having the idea the “touch” is something that will anyway disappear and even if somebody is trying to make applications more useful for touch devices they are against…
The idea behind this is … i guess… consistency: if something is bad, then we must keep consistent and do the everything else also as bad.
If I were you I would buy a nexus device, because ubuntu touch is making good progress and you will be able to run on it all kind of important applications… in the future… and you can have a dual boot with android.