Hello. I’ve been translating Haiku into Toki Pona on Pootle.
But there are no active members except me, so I can only “suggest” translations.
Could you give me the Language Manager (or committer) privileges for Toki Pona? I would like to move forward with the project.
My Pootle username is: jan_Talun
Thank you!
(Sorry if my English is not perfect, as I am Japanese.)
I don’t think the forum is probably the right place for this?
Although if a Pootle admin is reading, maybe?
The translations page says:
Anyone with an account at Pootle can suggest a translation for a GUI string, but only trusted “Language Managers” can submit these suggestions to be transferred to Haiku’s code base. If you would like to help out in that capacity, please get in contact via the general and language-specific mailing lists.
Translation stuff is run by a set of email lists.
There doesn’t appear to be a list for the language you’re working with, so the correct list for you to contact would be:
Yes, please subscribe to the haiku-i18n mailing list. It’s very low traffic, but there may be something posted concerning all translations, and then you’ll be in the loop.
The current (only?) translator for Toki Pona - I suspect the one requesting this translation first - is @LianBg . Maybe they read this here and can chime in: You still do language managing? You wanna do it together with @jantalun ?
I can up permissions there as needed.
Thank you!
My Pootle username is jan_Talun. Please upgrade my permissions so I can commit translations.
I would love to work with @LianBg if they are still active. If not, I am ready to move the Toki Pona project forward by myself.
I will also subscribe to the haiku-i18n mailing list. Thanks again for your help!
Very good. Let’s wait a few days to see if @LianBg pipes up. Until then you can keep suggesting translations and later on probably “submit” them yourself.
Happy translating!
toki a.
I am a fluent/semifluent (oral) tokiponist and software developer.
I saw there is a unfinished toki pona translation, I was wondering if I could onboard/get set as someone who can review and approve translations for the language; Earlier I suggested quite a few translations for Deskbar.
haiku uses pootle for translation. for questions about this you should ask a developer like
@humdinger b
Alright, does you mentioning them alert them?
Also when a dev does check, I was wanting to ask about the plausibility of maintaining both the latin (sitelen Lasina) script, and having sitelen pona (toki pona script) support in the OS.
There is a proposed Unicode extension to add SP, but its pending, there is a font (Fairfax) that could be used, it covers that block in USCUR (A unofficial unicode block for non registered scripts), if this OS were to support the script, it could help the unicode proposal have more weight, but its understandable if using that block would be questionable or discouraged.
it does, but dont do it too much
i dont speak toki pona but if sitelen pona is similar to something like chinese then it should be simple. unofrtunately fairfax isnt in the depot so im not sure how you would do this. still, ask a developer
a dev or someone else would need to add Fairfax (Fairfax HD specifically), if I recall it uses the Open Font License.
Also yeah im not going to @ the devs or anything, you already did.
The encoding: Sitelen Pona - Wikipedia
I merged the Toki threads. The older thread seemed to have petered out…
So, @jantalun and @LianBg, are you guys still active? Do you welcome @DigiSpaceProductions into the team? 
Do all of you want to manage the language or build some hierarchy in the team?
For a final version I would prefer to wait until there is an official Unicode block. But that’s the usual deadlock situation with new scripts.
I think a good plan would be:
I’m taking a cautious approach here because there were several times when someone asked us to allow a translation on Pootle, translated a few dozen strings, and got bored and gave up. So let’s take it one step at a time.
Fair enough.
I do hope with the latin script, ommiter access can be granted so work can progress, as afaik there are near 0 commits in the toki pona translation.
Also i dont even think @LianBg is active anymore, plus the translations that, i assume they made, personally seemed a bit hit or miss.
Also, as a further note (this will be my last reply until someone else gets to replying), later down the line, assuming the toki pona pi sitelen Lasina translation gets closer to completion, a sitelen pona translation COULD be possibly automated, though names would need to have a agreed upon transliteration; such as possibly ilo Aku or similar for ilo Haiku and so on, though terms like Desktop I’m unsure of, given how they could just be outright translated over, but that’s for others to agree upon.
Let’s give them a little more time to react. Poke me in a few days, should I forget…
There is a wiki for Toki Pona at https://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/i18n/tok/Info. It includes a “terminology” list. You’ll need a Trac account to edit it.
the terminology needs a look through as well, as parts of it are grammatically incorrect (“pini en open” for Reboot is a good example, “en” only separates subjects, never verbs)
Edit: Okay apparently you CAN do that???
But its incredibly non-standard and frowned upon anyway, so it’s still technically seen as incorrect; despite being technically ““correct””.
It should still use standardized spelling and phrasing, also things like “len” (used for clothes, but also privatizing/hiding things) should be used as well.
Also I cant edit the page.
Yeah the more I look at it, the less great it seems, if a toki pona translation were to be done and completed, it should only use words within not only the more standardized set of words, but also fitting within the USCUR for possible sitelen pona implementation in the future.
@DigiSpaceProductions, I went ahead and added you to the language managers of Toki Pona at Pootle and also granted you the necessary permissions to edit the i18n wiki.
Not sure how you want to discuss Toki related stuff, provided the other Toki-talkers re-appear. You could use the PM of this forum. Creating a mailing list is a bit of a hassle, more so should it turn out your translation pals keep being MIA.
I was thinking of asking notable tokiponists if theyd want to join in
