TeXLive on x86_64?

I think to install R1/Beta2 on my old netbook (currently I sometimes run it from live usb). But the absence of TeXlive is the showstopper. To use this netbook daily, I need emacs, pdflatex (with lots of latex packages) and a pdf viewer.
I see some very old recipe in haikuports, and I found some discussions, also mainly quite old. What’s the current status?

Nothing new, feel free to fix/update the old recipe in HaikuPorts.

Let’s add some info about the current status even if it’s nothing new.

TexLive is big, and the way it was packaged results in a single multi-gigabyte package. This is not great, because, quite often, you don’t need all of it. For example in Debian it is split in several smaller parts.

So, the recipe should be updated to do something like that (one single recipe can generate multiple packages), or maybe even the recipe should be split into multiple smaller and more manageable recipes.

I think all it needs is someone a bit familiar with Texlive internals or willing to learn more about it.

For me it took about 2 days to build TexLive (old recipe), still have the packages around (for 32bit and 64bit), but haven’t found a way to push it to a more recent version (as @extrowerk already tried)


I have tried to update the package to TexLive 2020 now, but I did not get it to work correctly yet. But I have pushed the changes to my fork of haikuports for now, if anyone wants to take a look: https://github.com/jmairboeck/haikuports/tree/texlive/app-text/texlive

It basically builds, but fails somewhere at the install stage. Probably the installer scripts need some patches too. It is still very much “work in progress”.

I have updated the recipe quite a bit to use external libraries where feasible and make it not use SVN anymore but a tarball of texlive’s CTAN archive instead.

Indeed, this package is way too big to be actually useful as such. It should probably be split up somehow. But I am not sure if this can be done with haikuporter as such.


You can use subpackages. Check the gcc recipe for some hints.

Yes, that would maybe be possible to split it into a few sensible chunks. But the question is, how to define these chunks (what to put in each package). The opensuse buildservice has a script which generates RPM spec files out of the tlpdb file (the downloadable index of CTAN). It results in a few thousand individual RPM packages though (see https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Publishing:TeXLive/Meta). That would probably be too many small packages …

Would be nice to know upfront what the errors are at the end when “install” chips in, doing a local build (I’ve got one for 32bit and 64bit available locally) takes about 2 days here :wink:

For huge TeX archive, the core executable and libraries are only ~45 MB (texlive-minimal or texlive-standard package in Linux), all the rest are packages, which are architecture agnostic and can be considered as data.

There are already several examples of package-as-data approach in popular software with application own package manager. An example is Emacs. Its extensions on Linux can be installed as Linux packages with package manager or as Emacs packages with Emacs itself. Another example is MikTeX with similar functionality. I believe TeXLive also has the package manager and CTAN can be used as package repository.

In Gentoo, for example, TeXLive-2020 consists of the package texlive-core (which contains all programs needing compilation) and 38 packages with texlive modules. The sources of these packages are a large number of texlive-module-foo.tar.xz files. The packages and modules in them are (I omit pure documentation modules and some other details):

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Not everybody needs all of this. The main thing is the texlive-core package with binaries. I, for example, in addition to texlive-core have only basic, bibtexextra, fontsextra, fontsrecommended, fontutils, formatsextra, langcyrillic, langenglish, langgerman, latex, latexextra, latexrecommended, luatex, mathscience, metapost, pictures, plaingeneric, pstricks, publishers, xetex. And, probably, I have never used more than a half of this list.

There has been talks about splitting up the package, getting it to build first would be nice before we start on splitting it? :slight_smile:

I’m not sure about that. Ideally we would be able to split the thing in multiple recipes, and each recipe would be a lot easier to manage independently. But I don’t know if texlive sources are distributed in a way that would allow this.

The current very large source download and very long build time makes the recipe simply unmanageable (both for maintainers and for the buildbot) and if there is a way to solve that, updating the smaller recipes would then be easier.

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Talks have been around for a while (hence my comment), didn’t have enough time (or for that any one else I gather) to fully investigate how this is done on other OS’s :slight_smile: