How accurate is the Haiku status page? It appears that it has only been updated once in the past 8 months. Same with all of the project pages. They have not been updated since openbeos.org times. I think that it would keep the average joe user more interested if the progress was shown on the haiku site. One would never see any progress if they weren’t in the mailing lists or trying it out themselves. I am also thing about creating a website that does indepth coverage of the haiku status. Is there a website that already does this? If there is let me know please.
The Haiku status pages should be taken as out-of-date. It can give you a general idea of where the project is, but the developers just don’t spend time working on keeping it updated. Then again, sometimes it’s hard to figure out just about where something is, like the app_server. A better idea of progress can be had at the Weekly Haiku blog at http://haiku.blubinc.com/svn/ . The guy provides pretty technical summaries, but it does help give an idea of the project’s progress.
OK, thanks for the link to the blog. I just want to say that i really appreciate all of the hard work you (DarkWyrm) and everybody else has done on the project. It’s been looking really good lately. I have just ran it in bochs a couple of times and am suprised at the speed and stability of it. I have been hittin’ up the Haiku/OpenBeOS related websites daily for like five years now. I do wish that there was someway that I could contribute even though i am nowhere near a guru in programming at all. If anyone has any suggestions let me know.
I think the Weekly blog is down.
Barring an unforeseen technical difficulty the blog is most assuredly up. It’s been a little slack around there due to many personal issues (recently married, holidays, barely any internet).
With regard to technical nature of the summaries, is it something that you believe should be changed? Always looking for feedback. The level it’s at now merely reflects my personal interests in the project rather than anything more thought out (You’d be surprised at the amount of detail I have to hack away from the drafts).
eNGIMa wrote:
Barring an unforeseen technical difficulty the blog is most assuredly up. It's been a little slack around there due to many personal issues (recently married, holidays, barely any internet).With regard to technical nature of the summaries, is it something that you believe should be changed? Always looking for feedback. The level it’s at now merely reflects my personal interests in the project rather than anything more thought out (You’d be surprised at the amount of detail I have to hack away from the drafts).
Nah. I really love the thing because there are some things that I just can’t seem to put together in my head even though I look at almost every checkin message. I wouldn’t change a thing if I were in your place.
DarkWyrm wrote:
The Haiku status pages should be taken as out-of-date. It can give you a general idea of where the project is, but the developers just don't spend time working on keeping it updated. Then again, sometimes it's hard to figure out just about where something is, like the app_server.
Would it be possible for somebody to do this nonetheless? I’m not a developer, but I plan on beta-testing the hell out of Haiku, once it’s at a point where I can do so. I didn’t know about the weekly blog, and have been relying on the status page to keep me informed of where Haiku is at. Apparently, it’s been keeping me mis-informed, instead – and I know of other people who have been confused by this as well, thinking that Haiku was not progressing. So I’m very glad to know that Haiku is further along than the status page indicates, but it would still be nice if somebody could fix the status page!
Thanks!
since the graphical status representation isn’t working out as well as intended,
what about providing a link to eNGIMa’s blog http://haiku.blubinc.com/svn/ and another to the CIA page http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/OpenBeOS and maybe even one to the BerliOS’s svn commit email archive https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/haiku-commits/ ?
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even with RealLife™ getting in the way of eNGIMa’s blog, it’s a great addition to the community. 
Those are great resources, and it would be good to provide links to them. However I don’t think they can really replace what the graphical display did: give the lay person an immediate rough grasp of the status of Haiku.
For somebody who is new to Haiku, one of the first things they’ll want to know is whether it’s at a point where they can get involved. Programmers will have various abilities and levels of interest. Power users will have one level of interest; casual users, another. The status graphic tells them instantly whether or not they’ll be able to get involved, without requiring them to spend many minutes or hours reading blogs.
For example: I’m an oldtime BeOS fanatic (circa '94), and have been keeping Haiku at the back of my mind. I’m not a C++ programmer, so I couldn’t do anything on that front, but I promised myself that as soon as all the major parts of Haiku hit alpha, I would immediately begin doing my part by testing and filing bug reports. So, every few months I would check the website, look at the status graphic to see if it was ready for me, find out it wasn’t, and not come back for another few months. Even if I’d been able to find the various blogs, I still don’t think that would have given me a good summary understanding of where Haiku was at. It’s only because I’m now desperately procrastinating something at work that I’ve been able to get as far into Haiku as I have, despite the status graphic.
jeanmarc wrote:
Check this out 8)
So what does this mean?
Is Haiku ready for a public alpha version.
Ok, it is a nice picture, but pictures tell nothing about if a system works.
As a 0815 user this picture tells me nothing.
Vestifex wrote:
jeanmarc wrote:Check this out 8)So what does this mean?
Is Haiku ready for a public alpha version.
Ok, it is a nice picture, but pictures tell nothing about if a system works.
As a 0815 user this picture tells me nothing.
It means, simply, that VLC runs on Haiku now.
Which is very cool. 8)
I would say close to a pre aplha release, but you could read that post from Michael Phipps to have an idea.
oh my god, haiku is finally getting usable. this is SOOOO cool.
I donôt think pre alpha means that it is actually usable.
Remember a usable OS needs programms that run.
I see the pre alpha release as a release for coders so they can test if their programs will run with haiku.
Bugs will be fixed, more and more programs will start to run stable.
It will be bug hunting, not a OS that can be used in every day work.
Just like reactos at the moment.
More for us freaks, not the enduser.
jeanmarc wrote:
i like this FlickR account :D
Yes, [Beta]'s work should nearly be called "official" since he currently has the most Haiku screenshots that showing exciting progress!
You’ve now made me want to start coding. I’m hitting the Algorithm books tonight.
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