Recommended refurbished laptop for Haiku

HDMI sound likely will not work due to missing driver!?

Audio via HDMI is generally unsupported on every hardware for now, therefore i don’t feel the need to add it everywhere, also i don’t use that at all, but thanks for pointing out.

If you need audio over HDMI probably you can get it work via HDMI audio embedder/inserter hardware (it combines video signal with audio from 3.5 jack or other input).

Test results:

  • Audio out works (speakers and 3,5 out aswell, jack-sensing works too)
  • Audio in: no input device detected
  • wlan connection: OK, speedtest shows 200+ Mbps
  • NVME disk: works
  • Battery status: works

i7-8650 is terribly fast (i have disabled SMT/hyperthreading) and use only the physical cores, but it is still really fast.

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what do you call refurbished?? in polish mean poleasingowy

Was there a problem with those?

There wasnt any issue, but Theo recommended to disable it: 'Disable SMT/Hyperthreading in all Intel BIOSes' - MARC

The “refurbished” word used as synonym for (professionally restored, cleaned) “second hand” or “used” computer.

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A second SSD is possible using a 2242 NVME B-Key / B+M-key SSD in the WWAN port.
M-Key SSD’s aren’t compatible.

You can cut a 2280’ SSD in half, if necessary.

They have different constraints than us. This makes sense when you want to secure apps from stealing each other’s data, but in Haiku, you have a lot more ways that would allow to do that without needing to go down as far as the CPU level. Starting with the fact that all apps run as root and have access to everything anyways.

So, that advice is valid where you would also use OpenBSD and do secure things, but on Haiku, not really?

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I do use OpenBSD and it is easier for me to use the SMT killswitch in the bios/uefi firmware which disables it everywhere.

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Like this:

Please add your hardware infos to the hardware list forum parts:

Even the SD-card reader is working (it is attached via USB)
I have frankly no idea why the manufacturers insisting using pci based card readers in other laptops. PRobabyl cheaper than the usb ones?

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what about the trackpad (touch, left and right click, scroll)?

TrackPoint (the red stuff) : works
TrackPoint buttons (the physical buttons above the touchpad): works
Touchpad : works, albeit it is recognized as a PS2 mouse, so no scroll and no touch sensitivity options in the preferences.
Physical right and left mouse buttons integrated in the bottom section of the touchpad (you have to press the touchpad and it clicks): works ok.
Tap and double-tap (tap lock to move windows or to select text): works
Brightness: hotkeys not working, but the slider is available in the Screen preference panel and it works, eg. it is possible to bind a keyboard shorcut to it using the Shortcut application.
Volume shortcuts: works
LAN/WLAN: works, albeit wlan doesn’t connects automatically.
Battery status: works
Main NVME and NVME in the WWAN port: works.

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Almost forgot: i made all my tests with UEFI boot with CSM disabled, booted via Refind.

Speedtest.net reports over 200megabit speed, therefore it is using 802.11ac speeds.

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listdev:


device Bridge (Host bridge) [6|0|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 5914: Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers

device Display controller (VGA compatible controller, VGA controller) [3|0|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 5917: UHD Graphics 620

device Signal processing controller [11|80|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 1903: Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Thermal Subsystem

device Generic system peripheral [8|80|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 1911: Xeon E3-1200 v5/v6 / E3-1500 v5 / 6th/7th/8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model

device Serial bus controller (USB controller, XHCI) [c|3|30]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d2f: Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller

   device Hub (Unused, Full speed (or root) hub) [9|0|0]
     vendor 0000: Unknown
     device 0000: Unknown

      device Human Interface Device (No Subclass, None) [3|0|0]
        vendor 046d: Logitech, Inc.
        device c52b: Unifying Receiver

      device Mass Storage (SCSI, Bulk-Only) [8|6|50]
        vendor 0bda: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
        device 0316: Card Reader

device Signal processing controller [11|80|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d31: Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem

device Signal processing controller [11|80|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d60: Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0

device Communication controller [7|80|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d3a: Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1

device Bridge (PCI bridge, Normal decode) [6|4|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d10: Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #1

device Bridge (PCI bridge, Normal decode) [6|4|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d13: Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #4

device Mass storage controller (Non-Volatile memory controller, NVM Ex [1|8|2]
  vendor 15b7: Sandisk Corp
  device 5003: WD Blue SN500 / PC SN520 NVMe SSD

device Bridge (PCI bridge, Normal decode) [6|4|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d14: Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #5

device Bridge (PCI bridge, Normal decode) [6|4|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d16: Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #7

device Network controller [2|80|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 24fd: Wireless 8265 / 8275

device Bridge (PCI bridge, Normal decode) [6|4|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d18: Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #9

device Mass storage controller (Non-Volatile memory controller, NVM Ex [1|8|2]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device f1a6: SSD Pro 7600p/760p/E 6100p Series

device Bridge (ISA bridge) [6|1|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d4e: Sunrise Point LPC Controller/eSPI Controller

device Memory controller [5|80|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d21: Sunrise Point-LP PMC

device Multimedia controller (Audio device) [4|3|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d71: Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio

device Serial bus controller (SMBus) [c|5|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 9d23: Sunrise Point-LP SMBus

device Network controller (Ethernet controller) [2|0|0]
  vendor 8086: Intel Corporation
  device 15d7: Ethernet Connection (4) I219-LM

listusb:

046d:c52b /dev/bus/usb/0/1 "Logitech, Inc." "Unifying Receiver" ver. 2411
0bda:0316 /dev/bus/usb/0/14 "Realtek Semiconductor Corp." "Card Reader" ver. 0204
0000:0000 /dev/bus/usb/0/hub "HAIKU Inc." "XHCI RootHub" ver. 0300

Audio input works for me only with the integrated microphone but I need to set the gain very high leading to capturing a lot of background noise.