Amnesty International puplished a report where they conclude that current LLMs and generatiâe AI systems are detrimental to human rights for various reasons, and they call for a ban (at state or UN level) as well as several regommendations for companies which we could consider (the recommendations are at the end of the report): https://www.amnesty.be/IMG/pdf/20260528_rapport_unlawful_by_design.pdf
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The same organization that had a loud voice when the police shoots a criminal, but keep silent when hundred of innocents are robbed or killed by those same criminals… They have 0 credibility, and hope they got kicked out of my country.
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@3dEyes gave another example that we can use to compare classical and LLM based translators, so here’s one more example, thanks to @3dEyes 
Example that caused a misunderstanding
Original:
Google Translate classical translation (when given full context):
You have a poor understanding of the capabilities of modern LLMs.
Google Translate LLM translation (when given full context):
You have a very limited understanding of the capabilities of modern LLMs.
What is meant by the phrase:
I apologize for confusing an Italian word with an Esperanto word.
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My only exposure to Esperanto is Harry Harrison’s “Stainless Steel Rat” novels, so I’m not gonna judge.
A couple of belated points. English is fortunately my native language, but I use Google translate regularly with Portuguese. My Portuguese is just barely adequate, automated translation helps a lot.
- Let’s not add translation to the forum and post in other languages. I usually edit translator output. Sometimes that’s really necessary (Google introduces stupid errors), sometimes it’s just a matter of style or something. What I post is my words, and I need this control over the version that people will read.
- We’re talking about a technology that is very much in transition. Its performance accuracy today will not be relevant by the time the policy has been sorted out.
- 3DEyes translation B appears to have uniquely gone with “firmly believe” at one point, where no one else did. That’s an example of what I believe is the kind of defect we can expect with AI outputs - like, “here, let me help you make this more impactful!” People who use these tools need to keep an eye on them to make sure they’re getting genuine translations, that are not juiced up.
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People forget that there is a downside to everyone having instant access to every culture. With the rise of highly-efficient automated translation, we are now seeing a massive increase of harassment from westerners against other cultures, which can only be described as a form of cultural imperialism. You got people minding their own business, doing what is normal in their culture, and they get attacked by people from another country. This was rare in the past, because you actually had to take the time to learn a new language in order to harass people efficiently. The most ridiculous people were usually filtered out by this.
Now the game is on. If you don’t behave 100% like an American, no matter what remote place you live in the world, billions of people will come for you.
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This is a poor indicator of the “humanity” of the text. I can ask my local Gemma to write all the texts, including typos and minor errors, and even imitate my writing style, manner of speech, and other nuances, and you will have no way of telling whether I wrote it or not. You have a very poor understanding of the capabilities of modern LLMs.
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I read it as being a joke?
Regardless, it’s not helpful to the discussion to dismiss anyone who disagrees with you as being ignorant this way. Stating that you don’t think spelling errors are a useful indicator is fine; insulting the understanding of the other person is not.
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Here are the first victims of Google Translate’s incorrect translation (this and the previous post were translated using it). In Russian, the last sentence was completely innocent and meant something like “modern LLMs can do things much more complex than you can imagine.” But a literal translation without understanding the idioms and context ruined everything and turned an innocent statement into something offensive. I apologize if this sounded rude, but maybe it’s better to focus on the essence of the matter rather than try to take offense at everything possible?
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Ah, thanks for clarifying. The tone that came across in the other message read more like a personal attack and something that could lower the productivity of the conversation here.
By the way, if you don’t mind, can we have the original version of the text? It might help the discussion in the other thread. 
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Hah, yeah. Nice to have a current example of that problem.
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Это слабый показатель “человечности” написания текста. Я могу попросить свою локальную Gemma писать все тексты с опечатками и мелкими ошибками и даже имитировать мой стиль письма, манеру речи и прочие нюансы и вы не сможете никаким образом понять писал это я или нет. Вы вы слабо представляете себе возможности современных LLM.
In Russian, the phrase “вы слабо представляете себе” is a soft, conversational idiom that means something closer to “you might not fully realize” or “it’s hard to imagine.” It is not an attack on someone’s knowledge.
However, Google Translate translated it literally as “You have a very poor understanding,” which in English sounds like a direct, rude attack on someone’s intellect.
If I had translated that exact same Russian text using an LLM (which understands context and politeness), it would have output something like:
"You might not be fully aware of the true capabilities of modern LLMs.
So, ironically, by using a “classic” non-LLM translator, I accidentally generated a toxic, insulting post that almost caused a moderation issue. If I had used an LLM, the conversation would have remained perfectly polite.
This is exactly why I advocate for the freedom to use LLMs for translation. They don’t just translate words; they translate intent and tone, saving us from these exact types of cultural and linguistic misunderstandings.
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Thanks for writing it up here.
I also admit to my mistake in not double-checking the text before sending it for possible misinterpretation - blaming the automatic translation for everything is a convenient excuse )
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“Greatly underestimate” would be the right translation I think. “Слабо представляете” is not that soft.
Though one tends to speak a bit differently in different languages, because a culture is a part of a language.
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LLMS generate “acceptable” text in the target language, with the major downside of matching the source much worse.
Beeing able to “tell” something is translated is a big bonus, as it avoids misunderstandings, it is expected that something like idioms are not perfectly understood or translated. Making something that “sounds” like it was perfectly written in english just makes something that seems insulting that much more prominent.
I would argue that the issue you mentioned here will be much worse with LLMs than without it, the issue here isn’t that you used a translation tool but rather that you knew this particular idom was translated badly and then chose to still post it… that’s not a “victim” of a translation tool, but rather your own choice…
I moved this discussion over to this thread since it deals with the merits of LLMs
Indeed it was a joke. I am quite aware that you can order an LLM to make spelling errors.
have we reached the point where humans can no longer detect humour without emojis to point it out? Then we might as well surrender to the LLMs.
Yes, that was another joke.
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