will haiku foundation follow usa law to forbid people from countries like russia or Iran or North Korea using and developing Haiku
If so,can the foundation move to Switzerland to be political neutral like the RISC-V foundation did
plus ,I’m from America’s hostile country.I think haiku is really excellent, I want haiku to be owned by all humanity,regardless of nationality
Can you be more specific? I’m not aware of any U.S. law that would affect anyone using a publicly-distributed U.S.-led software project, and the only laws I can think of that would affect developers are the sanctions laws which target a specified list rather than entire countries.
But I am not a lawyer.
I would very much appreciate knowing more if there are such laws, though.
(I also am in no way associated with the Haiku corporation.)
Ah, well.
I’ll wait to see if someone who knows about the topic weighs in.
Actively collaborating (submitting Pull Requests to the GitHub mirror, sending patches via Gerrit
Contributions to Haiku code are NOT via Pull Requests to the Github mirror. Github is used as a mirror only. Haiku project as its own git repository, which IIRC is already hosted outside US, in the The Netherlands. Same for its Gerrit and Trac servers.
One issue, though, is to use Haiku Gerrit you need to authenticate via a github account.
Another issue is the hosting company, DigitalOcean LLC, is an US company, so their datacenters in Netherlands are not immune to any US extraterritorial laws and/or sanctions.
Anyway, notice that there are other mirrors of Haiku code beside the one on github. One is on codeberg.org, hosted in Germany, for instance.
For communication (mailing list, IRC, mail, this Discuss forum itself, Telegram channel, alt.os.haiku usenet, etc), some may be currently under US regulations, but never all could ever be, so one will always have a way to exchange.
Haiku, Inc. (a U.S.-registered nonprofit) and U.S.-based core developers are legally required to comply with these rules.
Haiku Inc. doesn’t own Haiku code or the project itself. It only owns the Haiku trademark and can and do fund some actions regarding Haiku project. Would it be facing US sanctions, it will impact maybe the trademark validity in US and its ability to collect funds and use them, and potentially US-based individuals registered to Haiku, Inc. could have some legal exposure.
But not the Haiku project itself.
Regarding any US-based contributors, well, like any US citizen that are under US laws anyway, by definition.
But Haiku is not just Haiku project. It’s also HaikuPorts and HaikuArchives, and here there is a bit more reliance on Github currently.
But, again, may the situation worsen enough to become a necessity, it’s open source world, people will switch to mirrors, turn them as active repositories and upload theirs git clones to alternative git hosts in such case.
It’s the nature (and power) of open source projects. It’s, by design, in the open, for anyone.
That’s luckily not true anymore and hasn’t been for years,otherwise I couldn’t contribute.
Haiku Gerrit uses Haiku SSO,where you can login using M$ Github if you want to,but you can also register an account with username,email and password directly at the Haiku SSO,no questionable third-parties involved.
The HaikuPorts situation is really unfortunate,however 
you can also register an account with username,email and password directly at the Haiku SSO,no questionable third-parties involved.
Oh, didn’t know that!
Perhaps this will help:
Don’t post output from grok or other AI tools, if we want to talk to those we would do it ourselves. If you have any questions on your own feel free to ask those instead.
Please take a look at our faq: FAQ - Haiku Community
I my opinion open source hardware is for people not for corporation. Meanwhile Simens take RISC-V as own. Nobody is perfect! also riscv fundation.
Thanks; that agrees with what I thought the situation was: specific individuals can be problematic, not entire countries, and receiving code contributions is for the most part not sanctioned anyway.
I remain not a lawyer, of course.
To be fair, it doesn’t look like there is any mention of not posting the output of generative “AI”s at that link.
I agree with what you said, but it doesn’t appear to actually be policy?
Assume people have done basic research before turning to the forum. Posting easy to find search results or the output of a large language model (so called “AI”) is not helpful. Even more so if you try to pass it off as your own reply.
I totally missed that; thanks.
The last paragraph (“haiku’s project stance”) seems mostly correct, probably just by chance. The other ones are made up because of lack of sources and mostly nonsense. For example it says the developers are mostly US based, which is not the case (there are europeans, russians, new zealanders, …) and that we use github, also not quite the case.
As ths linke article from Conservancy also explains, the sanctions would apply in the other direction: we couldn’t sell Haiku to someone in a sanctioned country. Maybe hiring someone from there could also be a problem, and for example, Google Summer of Code will not allow it.
“moving” a nonprofit to another country is not something you can do. You need to create a different one in the new country and possibly transfer assets. We already have the Haiku Support Association in Germany, and lately, due to the situation in the US there has been more interest in “reactivating” it. It was a bit dormant in the last few years because there wasn’t really a need for two nonprofits.
I’m glad to see”We already have the Haiku Support Association in Germany, and lately, due to the situation in the US there has been more interest in “reactivating” it”
I really want to see anyone from any country can participate in using and developping haiku
Well, as this is already the case, the “want” used here is a bit weird… 
Not sure what that would give you, as Switzerland imposes sanctions on all the countries you mentioned.
oh,I don’t konw about this.It’s really sad. Maybe the haiku foundation could Adopt the model of thePirateBay or zilibray someday
Why? What problem are you trying to solve? Nobody ever asked me for an ID to contribute to Haiku.