I have burnt two discs one from each of my pc-s which were using different internet providers.
Both disks were burnt from ISO downloads.
The opening screen displays a message cant find a partition to boot, followed by lines of debug information which I don’t understand. I try to get the installation started by typing continue but after some more lines finishes again. If I now type continue everything freezes and my only way out is to turn-off the machine remove the disk and re-boot with one of my other o/s.
HELP PLEASE
Curtrey
Hi Curtrey, I hope the following words help you . I am a 67 yr old Operating Systems Junkie and have been in comps for 35+ years and still tend to do things the OLD way!
I have noticed over the years that the younger generation love to tinker and not always to the betterment over previous practices. I first saw BEoS ( what Haiku is based on ) when it appeared 20+ yrs ago. Fabulous O/S . In those days Linux was just coming onto the market and was a DOG!
Back then we downloaded a file called an ISO. Which was described as," one continuous file ".
We simply D/L the ISO and burnt it to a disk, all very simple.
But nowadays the younger generation have decided to change all that, i.e. I saw a Windows, so called ISO that had been split up into ten so called ISO’s and after downloading had to have another programme to put them all together. The mind boggles!
And to this little thing called Haiku.
This is how I get it to work. Download whichever file you desire. Click on it and you are presented with a couple of files. The file with Haiku image, rename to haiku.ISO. Copy it to your desktop,( I am assuming you’re using Windows ).Then use whatever ISO burn prog ( I prefer FreeISO burner ) to burn to the CD. If your using WIN7 just click on the haiku.ISO and it will do it automatically.
I might add that Puppy Linux did exactly the same thing. When it first appeared it was easy to install etc, but the more recent versions have been changed and can be a little iffy, so to speak!
I hope this helps you and any other newbie to this what I think is a good O/S. If it doesn’t put it down to an old fart who has nothing better to do and all day to do it in!
regards,
Eddie.
Thanks Eddie.
I don’t think the problem is with the installation DVD but more with the architecture of the two computers I am trying to use. The exact words on the top of the installation screen are:-
PANIC COULD NOT MOUNT BOOT DEVICE
This is followed by lines of Kdebug, which I don’t understand.
Below this is the Haiku screen with the boxes which light-up under HAIKU but that’s where the freeze-up
starts. The command ‘continue’ locks-up the process.
As I relied on an IT department when I worked I am ignorant of things computers. Most of all command line entries don’t seem to work as the commands seem to be updated without much notice.
The one single failure, common to all the alternatives to Microsoft Windows, is the immediate rush to command line entries, to solve o/s problems. I have had several arguments on forums on this point. Those who use the forums and o/s associated, seem to say unless you want to spend hours mastering command line entries then best to go away, back to Windows. This restricts the systems, whether Linux or BSD, for use by
those with programing knowledge and further marginalises the o/s.
I just want an o/s with the properties of Windows for which I want to use and not one that demands I must
become knowledgeable of o/s programs. I don’t.
I am 70 and have more than enough to do without taking up another interest, which will further dilute
the time I can spend on my current interests.
So Eddie I rely on you to advise me. Is it the computers I am using or the way I am trying to install Haiku.
For your guidance my Laptop is a Dell Latitude D400 and the motherboard bundle of my desktop pc uses an Asus M4N7B-AM with a quadcore processor AMD Phenom 9550. The RAM is 2G.
Curtrey
It sounds like it doesn’t support your pata/sata chipset (the thing that controls your drives). Try holding space at boot to get safe mode options, enable them all, and see if it boots. Then disable them one at a time to find which one you need to boot.
If that doesn’t work you could also try booting from usb (see the installation page on how to prepare a usb drive).
I was going to suggest using an ISO rather than the anyboot image, as the anyboot image seems to create as many problems as it solves, but I see from your first comment that you are using a proper ISO file. Yet you may be among those that actually benefit from the anyboot image, so you could try it if you want.
You can also use press the shift key to enter the Boot Loader Menu, where you can try some of the safe mode options to see if they work. You can read about that here: https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/bootloader.html
Haiku in this situation only entered the command line based KDL because it is kind of Haiku’s alternative to Windows’ Blue Screen Of Death. Only instead of restarting the computer, it allows the user to try and debug the problem. It looks like Haiku entered the KDL because it is having difficulty communicating back with the CD drive; some of the CD & hard dive safe mode options will maybe help with this.
Haiku doesn’t normally call on the user to use the command line to do normal user behavior, but does fall back to it when the feature is experimental such as the package management system and when communicating with bluetooth devices. Anything that is not experimental should be able to be done with your mouse or at most a keyboard shortcut for advanced features. You are not expected to have to edit a file via the command line in order to simply change the screen resolution, unlike some other operating systems.
Cheers,
Richard
Curtrey, The other guys advising you are without doubt more knowledgeable about Haiku than I.
So their advice is good. However, I would like to offer a small tip that has worked on more than one occasion for me in the past when trying to get an OS to boot.
In the BIOS there is a setting usually on the first screen and usually on the right hand side that has this: Load failsafe defaults. If you are confident enough to play with the BIOS then it might get you past the boot prob.
If it doesn’t work then just go back into the BIOS and select the line below it which will set your comp to a higher setting.
I concur with you re Command line work, it was one of the things about BEoS that turned me off Linux. Linux required it and BEoS didn’t. I was playing with my Mac the other day and was gobsmacked because I had to resort to CL on that. Had to claw my way through the cobwebs.
Good luck and I hope you get Haiku working it’s a very nice OS.
Eddie.
Hello curtrey,
I don’t know much about your problem myself, but I did stumble across this post made on reddit’s HAIKU section, hopefully it’ll help - http://www.reddit.com/r/haikuOS/comments/1ao67e/after_years_of_trying_i_finally_got_haiku/
“I tried everthing. The bootable cds, manual installs using dd straight to the hard disk, bootable flash drives… and nothing. I tried a few times over the last few years.
It turned out to be a simple BIOS setting. By default my BIOS is set to see the disks as raid devices, even if no raid is setup. I just had to switch it to IDE and everything magically worked! No problems at all. I haven’t seen any bugs. All the hardware I’ve tried has worked without any configuration. Everything is perfect. Just like old times. I just felt the compulsion to share. Posted from WebPositive!
Oh, and on that note, I’d be nice if YouTube let WebPositive users into the HTML5 trial. WP is built on WebKit 1.1, right? So it should work just fine.”
CnP form above…I just want an o/s with the properties of Windows for which I want to use and not one that demands I must
become knowledgeable of o/s programs. I don’t.
Curtrey, I might get shot down by the forum members for this but after re-reading your line above I think I would be correct in saying Haiku might not be the best for you. Haiku is for guys like me who get a kick out of playing around with things for hours on end just to get them to work. Whereas you seem to be like the general run of the population who just want to hit the power button and use it.i.e. normal people!
This is the part I might drop myself in it. There is a Linux prog called Puppy Linux. It runs on any machine and a couple of beaut things about it are.1: All programmes are on the Desktop.i.e. Word prog, Spreadsheet etc. 2: If you use wired connection it will automatically connect… Wireless, probably one of the easiest setups on the net. Virtually a one touch setup.
The other thing it runs in Ram so it doesn’t affect your Windows etc.
If you run off the ODD you you don’t have to worry about viruses etc.
Last thing, it’s very fast.
Regards,
Eddie
Apologies offered to the Forum if I have stretched friendship by offering the above advice!
I think you’ve offered some sound advice Eddie. Haiku at this stage just isn’t ready for everyday use yet. There are quite a few features to be added, and even more hardware that needs to be supported before Haiku is ready for the masses. I hope the day comes soon when we finally get a stable release which is able to provide an easy to use operating system for everyone, but until then I also recommend that you take a look at linux Curtrey. My personal favorites for ease of use are Peppermint Linux and Linux Mint, both run incredibly fast on virtually all kinds of hardware. And to get your Haiku fix, you can go with the route I took and install Haiku via VirtualBox.
On my main PC i use Haiku as everyday OS. Currently i’m running 45349. 
Maybe i am lucky, since Haiku fully supports my hardware, but since this revision i never see any crash of the OS itself neither any KDL.
Lack of applications? Maybe some months ago there was a lack of apps, but in the last weeks i have ported a lot of Qt apps: Scribus, qBittorrent, Qupzilla, Vacuum for chat, download managers, games and many utilities
On this PC i also have dualboot with Windows 7… Now Windows 7 is become very slow and lazy… Haiku, instead, is very quick… and is still in Alpha stage!
When i show Haiku to my friends they can’t believe that is an Alpha OS
On my main PC i use Haiku as everyday OS. Currently i’m running 45349.
Maybe i am lucky, since Haiku fully supports my hardware, but since this revision i never see any crash of the OS itself neither any KDL.
Lack of applications? Maybe some months ago there was a lack of apps, but in the last weeks i have ported a lot of Qt apps: Scribus, qBittorrent, Qupzilla, Vacuum for chat, download managers, games and many utilities
On this PC i also have dualboot with Windows 7… Now Windows 7 is become very slow and lazy… Haiku, instead, is very quick… and is still in Alpha stage!
When i show Haiku to my friends they can’t believe that is an Alpha OS :-)[/quote]
What I meant to say is everyday use for the average user. =]
I personally don’t mind having to mess around with the system and having to look up ways to fix any problems I’m having with Haiku (in a way, I kind of like it!), but for most people they expect everything to work OOTB. In my opinion, Haiku is very advanced for an OS that is currently in alpha, but it still has some essentials it is missing before I would feel comfortable installing it permanently and letting my family (who aren’t that great with computers) use it. I think once development is complete on the package management system, along with a web browser that has HTLM5 support, I will have no worries about installing Haiku on my main computer.
Also, thank you once again for all the hard work you’ve put into improving Haiku Giova! I’ve downloaded quite a few of the apps you have ported, they have definitely improved my Haiku experience. =]