Where I can find Haiku manual (or wiki) and Haiku manual for nowice (dummies)?
What is happening:
today I run in terminal ‘qe’ and then try to resize ‘qemacs’ window: "Welcome to debugging land“ – but I do not know what to do with it – wher I can learn about this? and other useful things. Is there some Haiku wiki on the subject?
There must be some centralized extensive Haiku wiki, or not?
I think, if some Haiku developer added something to Haiku he must document this, that other can learn how this thing work and how use it.
Wiki must include structured knowledge (from simple (main) to complex (detail)) in separate levels:
- description what something in Haiku is and what it do (what its purpose);
- manual how to use it;
- information about that Haiku thing for developers.
We don’t have a wiki like this, but we have a website. It has a rather complete page on getting started with the Kernel Debugging Land: https://www.haiku-os.org/documents/dev/welcome_to_kernel_debugging_land/
As a user, you normally should not get there. The fact that this pops up way too often is a reason we’re still in alpha/beta.
This question is a joke right?
How many times has this been discussed here in the forum. Would be great if you already use existing discussions and not always again for the same questions new discussions opened.
https://discuss.haiku-os.org/search?q=wiki
Also, it would be really nice if people, of those who always want to have everything, something gets.
There are the Haiku User Guides (On the desktop with every haiku installation iirc): https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/contents.html
There is the BeSly knowledge base: http://www.besly.de
There is this forum: https://discuss.haiku-os.org
There is the besly forum: http://f.besly.de
Add something by explaining things or creating DUG reports.
No, it is not a joke. I am very serious about need for centralized Haiku wiki. I think, you’re confusing learning, discussing and researching. I rather separate these things.
Also, it is simple to find something that you almost know about it everything, but is difficult to find something about what you almost know nothing.
damoklas
No, it is not a joke. I am very serious about need for centralized Haiku wiki. I think, you’re confusing learning, discussing and researching. I rather separate these things.
Also, it is simple to find something that you almost know about it everything, but is difficult to find something about what you almost know nothing.
If I am looking for something then I look first if there is already something about it and do not write a new contribution immediately. This is my style of looking, and I also turn to although I know more about the subject.
But as you see I’ve criticized your contribution but still given information on the topic.
I do not agree with such methods: criticising (beating) and then giving some “candy”. In that way you go no forward. It is source of stagnation, at best, but usually it is source of regress.
damoklas,
I believe there are no dumb questions, only dumb answers. We all have to start somewhere!
As mentioned earlier a good starting reference is:
https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/contents.html
But this is geared towards users, whereas kernel debug land is more developer specific. PulkoMandy gave a great reference. I have been using BeOS since 1998 but I am mostly a 3rd party developer so I still don’t understand KDL (not that I’ve tried very hard since it is outside what I am usually working on). Any assistance in debugging Haiku issues is really appreciated, and as mentioned please use the bug tracker at dev.haiku-os.org to report issues or submit patches.