Gmail says no more supported on webpositive

Dear All

From last week, Gmail is asking me to switch to another browser…says no longer supported on webpositive
Pl. see the screenshot, attached…

Using IceDove here with my gmail account, works just fine.

IIRC WebPositive pretends to be an old version of Safari when it talks to servers. Its a question of updating the browser spoofing code, but that probably has to be done with the next version update: I don’t see an easy way in ~/config/settings.

It doesn’t. It says clearly that it is WebPositive, but also mentions Mozilla, KHTML, Safari, and various other things. There is no spoofing in place.

Safari itself stopped including the webKit version in the user agent a while ago to prevent websites for using that to “detect” features.

The complaint should rather be taken to Google to not deprecate browsers after just a few weeks…

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I have set icedove for my disroot email, so, for Gmail I login through web

Maybe it should be compiled with another, more recent User-Agent string.

No, the user agent string does not change, even in safari…

Regular Safari on a non-Haiku system doesn’t say Haiku or Webpositive.

Again, please take your complaints to Google; I will not fake user agents and pretend to be Google Chrome just to please them.

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Noble, but that will solve exactly nothing for Webpositive users. In a while, everyone ‘has to’ use another browser to accomplish something trivial.
Why not let the user change it if they want?

I am personally not interested in such hacks. Someone else will have to do it. I’m not even sure if it’s the user agent or some feature detection.

The warning will likely go away with the next webkit update, but the previous release is not even that old, just a few months…

I have the same “problem” but with ProtonMail, and for different reasons:


I use LibreWolf to access mail from the browser, but any other Firefox or Webkit-based browser available in Haiku should do. This is one of the few exceptions I have to use another browser, other than WebPositive.
I don’t think faking user agents would solve the issue in my case, but even if it would, I very much prefer this slight annoyance than faking.

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That’s actually a good error I can work with as a developer, very nice!

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Looks like it’s checking the TLS ciphers. https://www.zenrows.com/blog/what-is-tls-fingerprint

No, It isn’t. It clearly sais WebCrypto…

But, beside the top warning message, does GMail still works as expected anyway in WebPositive ?

Can send Email, but acts slow, sluggish…not much responsive

If WebPositive, the native web browser of Haiku, utilizes the WebKit engine, which is also used by Apple Safari and Google Chrome,
how come gmail never says they are not supported,
but it says so for WebPositive?

Ask google? Chrome does not use webkit.

The UA. Changing Version/14.1.2 to Version/18.4 (it doesn’t mind the Haiku and WebPositive parts) gets rid of the warning ribbon. Bad Google. And if you follow the more info link, it doesn’t mention WebKit or any engine, but only browsers: Chrome, Firefox, Safari and Edge.

Another way of getting rid of it is to just click its close button, of course. Everytime you log in, just in case you forgot you are not using an approved version of an approved browser.

In case it isn’t clear for anyone reading this: changing the UA does not change one iota of what the browser can do; if it was slow it is still slow, if something doesn’t work it still doesn’t work. It’s just google deciding to show a message just by peeking at a string.

Or giving it a less cynic spin: we (google) have these complicated browser apps, but there are soooo many browsers out there… See, we promise we’ll try our best to make them work in the latest versions of the most used browsers. If you are not using one of them, you are on your own. Some stuff may not work, and that is more likely to happen the older and more obscure your browser is. But you also may not have any problem. We’ll just show a message telling you that much.

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