Does HP-t430 be haiku-box?

does HP-t430 be haiku-box?

or similar thing?

Intel N4000
DDR4L-1866 SDRAM 2Gb
disk 16Gb

:grimacing:

I think a device to aspire to be a “Haiku Box” it should have all of its components with driver support. In addition, if required, “control panel” like software to control the hardware components if the Haiku preferences do not contain a native option for controlling that kind of hardware component.

After that, it would be nice to have it preinstalled with some more additional 3rd party native (as in “using Haiku APIs”) software to be more ready for normal user usage.

I don’t know exactly what parts does this device have, and how far is the driver support from Haiku side to say anything meaningful.

well, it’s the official word.
haiku may get all parts to work.

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Where did you get that text from? without any formatting it looked like spam at first. I guess you copied this from a website, but what is it supposed to tell us?

My take on the ever recurring HaikuBox topic:

There will be no “HaikuBox” in the same way there was a BeBox. It’s completely against the nature of an open source OS and community with very diverse computing needs.
Any computer that runs Haiku reasonalbly well is a HaikuBox.

And even the BeBox as a commercial product was arguably a failure. Not in a technical sense, but business wise. That’s why it was discontinued pretty quickly.

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Even in a technical sense, in a way.

At the time Be started working, the “cool” machines around were things like the Amiga, where the OS and hardware worked together and the hardware was specifically designed for that purpose.

The first generation BeBox (the one based on the Hobbit CPU) planned to do something somewhat similar but using DSPs (digital signal processors). That would have been somewhat similar to the Atari Falcon. But, it turns out this approach would not work so well, because a DSP runs well only if you load it with specifically hand-tuned code for a given application. Great for a game console or a similar device where one application has entire control of the system. But not so much for a multitasking operating system running general purpose applications. And this wasn’t even discovered at that time: the Xerox Alto, for example, had siilar problems with its reconfigurable CPU microcode, 15 years earlier.

So, the second generation Be Box removed all of that, and when it was done, it was just a regular machine. Sure, it had a lot of IOs, and more interestingliy it had dual CPUs. But that only increased the cost, and in the end wasn’t really essential to getting the OS running well (as shown by later iterations of BeOS not needing such hardware). So, the hardware surely cost a lot more than reasonable to produce, it would sell at a too high retail price, and Be decided to become a software-only company. Thigs might have been very different if their first generation of hardware aimed at being a more low-cost PowerPC machine? Hard to say if it would be different in a good or a bad way, however.

Not all users are very good english speakers here. Communication is difficult sometimes. Accusing them of looking like spam does not help. Please keep the community welcoming to all Haiku users :slight_smile:

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looked like ment that I thought it was spam at first, but then reconsidered. It was not an accusation. Regardless I don’t understand what the post is about, hence my question.

a good answer.

Let’s have a 3d-printed ATX/mATX BeBox styled case for everyone to install their motherboards in. Now it seems that only Rpi factor version exists.

It doesn’t have to be the exact way as it was BeBox before. It could just be a “spec” of how can a Haiku centric computer could be built, or a product with hardware 100% compatible with Haiku, and with Haiku preinstalled (if someone wants to take the risk of creating such product and market it). Having a box with Haiku preinstalled is a good way to boost the OS share.

And why creating that product could be against open source spirit?

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I like that idea, but someone would have to be in charge of keeping it up to date as technology and Haiku move on. Just doing it once-off would be meaningless.

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