What exactly is wrong with IRC clients? These newfangled apps are also just a listing of boxes (more or less ugly and sucking space like discord as one example) with text in it. But where these clients stop at (useless) notification stuff spamming your inbox IRC has actual commands which add value to it. I’m not talking about DC here, although something like this discord and can only dream off.
I am sorry but I was wrong. I meant that this could be the another way to talk with community NOT for replacement of IRC.
I’ve seen Haiku OS-related chat on @3dEyes’s screenshots when he announced porting of Telegram client is done, so the chat definitely exists…
What exactly is wrong with IRC clients? These newfangled apps are also just a listing of boxes
(more or less ugly and sucking space like discord as one example) with text in it.
If it was only text in it, indeed none will be better than IRC.
But modern instant chat messaging system does more than text only:
- push notifications
- easy image, video and document sharing
- easy to search a channel history
- bot API
- inline API
- stronger authentification
It’s like GUI vs CLI. At the roots, CLI can do the same than most of GUI apps.
But when it comes to easily share visual content, be more event-driven than command-driven, GUI does more, or at least does it more intuitively.
I likes IRC, but I find Telegram for instance more easy to use on a daily basis from whatever platform I’m on along my day.
Only problem with these media things is that people start spamming images and videos. I’ve seen various chat rooms on different platforms and sooner or later it looks like 4chan more than anything else
Telegram : search for @haiku_os
Or follow this link:
Dunno for others, but at least on Telegram have moderators support.
Tere are some few things about irc, to configurar on other sytsm than haiku. But at the end it just. Work but to me is hard to haveareally goo. Clie t as visión on linux.
It is not much different from this forum vs the good old mailing lists, in fact.
This doesn’t mean you have to try stopping every attempt at bringing new communication channels just to satisfy your ego.
Those days it’s a pity Haiku doesn’t have an official telegram channel. Same apply for youtube and other places.
Fragmentation of community is as bad as not having one. Besides the quality of the community in such places is often questionable. Sticking to valuable community in fewer places is not stupid but a viable path.
There’s no danger in fragmenting the community.
Not everyone, especially those days is willing or has enough confidence to use IRC or mailing lists. But besides that, it seems that creating new communication channels is something bad.
For me it is the exact contrary. While it doesn’t necessarily mean changing the official channels, we should welcome those initiatives. This is sign of a vital project which after all want to go forward. I’d be very worried if people didn’t propose things like that.
But the main thing I’ve been trying to say is that we know developers like certain communication channels, but this doesn’t mean users should be forced to do so.
As an example, I never joined a telegram chat and don’t intend to do so anytime soon.
The project should try to welcome any initiative like that, because it’s a good sign and not a bad one.
…if we all will switch to telegram.
Which definitely will not happen!
And if it happens, let’s welcome it. That means times are changing.
As an example, I never joined a telegram chat and don’t intend to do so anytime soon
As an example, I never join a discord channel and don’t intend to do so anytime soon, since it derails into 4chan too soon.
Something which applies to next all the “new media channels” I’ve seen so far. We need community, not 4chan raised to the power of 10.
I’m pretty sure when XMPP appeared, someone said something similar. No one force you to use discord, but please distinguish between your likes and the likes of others.
For me you can join whatever you want, but please try to not be so reticent with new initiatives. As said I’m the first to dislike a lot of chat and social services, but there’s no need to be the grampa every day.
I did not try to stop anything. In fact I am active on the Telegram group mentionned earlier. I just had 2 points:
- I was wondering why I should consider joining that new Discord thing,
- I am worried that there would be many small communities and it is hard to reach out to everyone. It makes it hard to track “where to get in touch with people”. It annoys me to spend more time per day checking telegram + irc + mailing list + forums, when I would prefer having all of this in a single place. I live with it, however.
As usual, relevant xkcd:
As for official channels, there are at least 2 official youtube channels, and what would be needed to make the haiku_os channel on Telegram official? Is it just listing it on the website? Because that’s easily done by anyone.