Amiga OS refugees

Haha… I meant Haiku… :smiley:

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There seems to be many (ex) Amiga users among the BeOS/Haiku Community :slight_smile: Its the same for me, I stayed by the Amiga until 1999-2000 something then I went to BeOS. When BeOS went down I went to Apple and have stand by Apple since then. I have tested OpenBeOS and Haiku a couple of times over the years but it didnt catch on. I did a test of Haiku last November and Whooow, now it was/is mature enough!!! Since then I am a daily Haiku-user :smiley: ! I use FS-UAE under Haiku to run AmigaOS3.2 :smiley: So now I get the best of two worlds :slight_smile:

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I just read that Amiga article in the Guardian. I’m sorry to say that i think it is dreadful! A space filler.

He had nothing valid to say about the Commodore Corp’s long & drawn out self destruction. A book could be written on that one.

A seemingly purpose built self destruction intent on killing any chances for our beloved Amiga systems to survive & thrive into the future. a future that they truly deserved.

I didn’t read any comments that may have been related to the article, on the Guardian’s page. I expect that someone would have straightened out the author on a few things. If they actually lived through it, of course.

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The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore is a great read.

The author is a hack unfortunately.

But I think it was more anecdotal rather than a history lesson. He mentioned the ZX Spectrum, arguably a more popular system by sales volume, but gave no real context either (yes I know it wasn’t really popular in North America, but then Apple, Atari 8-bit and Tandy CoCo weren’t popular here.)

I certainly don’t remember the Amiga being uncool. It was always seen as better than an ST and cooler than a Archimedes in the UK. I think he is incorrect.

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Can someone help to build Aros one 64 bit on top of Haiku ?

Is this similar to full screen mode/workspaces for apps in Mac OS? (This is something I use constantly and love and I don’t understand people who don’t, ha ha)

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Great to hear it works for you now, it is almist there for me, i just need multi-monitor, Disk encryption and webcam support before i can use haiku as daily driver (hw-accel 3d would be nice)

I’d be willing to donate to a project making a seamless Amiga Kit out of FS-UAE. Would make Haiku more of a spiritual successor to the Amiga if it would run Amiga software seamlessly.

Then make an AmigaOS-like GUI mod and it would look like an Amiga, swim like an Amiga and quack like an… AmigaOS 5 :wink:

Personally, I’ve been thinking about a menu-bar class, where people can choose whether they want it inside a window or in the top of the screen.

Apps using this “BMenuBar” or “BMenuArea” - wouldn’t have an empty space in the window, older apps would very likely, in case the user wants to force the menu to be somewhere else - but those apps should just be updated (even fairly recent apps need to be updated anyway to work with other font-sizes than the default 12pt anyway).

As an Atari / Mac OS / Mac OS X user, I’d definitely prefer it at the top of the screen, but I don’t want to take away the menu in the window from those who like it to be there. Well … Some people would probably even want it in the bottom of the window or the bottom of the screen - or “NeXT”-like.

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Haiku do have some chances to compete for being AmigaOS successor if compatibility layer is ready, given how AROS development is in very early stage and Hyperion Entertainment is suffering from internal issues. MorphOS exists but PowerPC devices are rare nowadays.

We can use Ambient from MorphOS as alternate desktop environment for Amiga mode.

They have been at it for longer than Haiku exists, right?

It took us long enough to replicate BeOS, and AmigaOS is a lot more quirky and complicated, especially to make it play nice with modern hardware. There’s no way the Haiku developers can beat AROS at their own game here.

The AROS kernel was originally designed to run hosted on a Linux kernel and has a bitrotted, experimental build for BSD. It’s easier than you think.

I’d very much like NeXT or macOS style global menu bars!

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Tear-off submenus would be cool; they can be very useful, if using a submenu-item often.

Is it MUI / Zune for Linux?

Yes. It is Zune for Linux. It differs from hosted AROS in that it leaves the Linux memory protection features in place.

Wow. Didn’t ever expected Zune / MUI to be ported to Linux.
Is there a distro with Ax?

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Not yet, but keep in mind that Zune/Ax is lighter weight than anything based on X11 or probably Wayland even. The original MUI could run on a system with 4 megs of Fast RAM on the 68000 instruction set.