You can take a look at Emacs release history to draw the conclusion.
Emacs is not about ideology. Rather it is about features. Nobody tries to convince that Emacs should be used instead of (place your preferred editor here).
When e.g. Atom will have half of these features, your argument would hold. When Spacemacs would keep its development as active as Emacs, the GUI / OS integration probably would be resolved. But today Emacs has something to offer, that no other software has. In case these features are demanded, Emacs is still necessary. And today, November 22, 2021 the features of Emacs are demanded by a large community of users.
Most of the problems for which the CS/informatics still actively seeks solutions (and finds sadly subideal ones) are simply traceable back to the real unix world. Those features you mentioned (or just said emacs got them) are made to overcome with the fact that OS they picked and stand with needed them to write an another OS camouflaged as an editor.
I mean release frequency in context of pretended āoutdated softwareā.
This is really the point of Emacs, like it or not. Many people find it useful.
But the features of Emacs are not limited to (neither primarily targeting) Unix world problems. I mentioned one example of programming in C++ / Java / Web. Obviously, none of them were available in initial Unix.
I will not list here the features I like and use in Emacs, which are not present in other IDEs. Just mention I have an impression your point is: āI donāt know what Emacs has to offer, but anyway, it should be deadā. This position is purely ideological, not technical. And I strongly disagree with this.
Iāve just tried Emacs for the first time (on Manjaro Linux).
Itās often mentioned as alternative to Nano and Vim so I never realized before that it also has a GUI and therefore wasnāt interesting for me.
Iām really impressed by the tons of features it offers.
I must admit that people saying Emacs is a whole OS arenāt lying
Now Iām going to install it on Haiku as well.
Nobody said that, so please stop giving words into my mouth. For the reference, I did the original port of emacs.
Correct me if i am wrong, but thatās how CS/informatics works nowadays. One get disciplined by the problems they needs to workaround and by the available tooling and at the end that poor person becomes blind to the real problems and becomes completely unmotivated to solve the real problems, as it wonāt pay the dues. So we stay in the same swamp. We donāt like it to be in that swamp and we did not needed to land in that swamp to begin with, but we stay, because it is 36 years old, therefore it is proven tech. And some folks like to stay in the swamp, but that should be personal preference/decision, not ideologized, how that sadly goes in cs/foss scene.
Orginally Be Inc wanted to provide a 4th way beside mac, win and nix. Now some folks just want to use the same tooling on Haiku, which can result in a bit-less-unixy-linux.
Now this is something i agree with.
If i did something wrong, you can always contact me privately to discuss about it, but i donāt like the idea to feel myself shamed only because i have a different opinion.
Unix (as opposite to Multics) has one-program-for-one-task philosophy. Clearly Emacs is opposite to this. So it does not genetically relate to Unix. Emacs does not target any specific OS or tries to solve these OSās problems. Having Emacs in Haiku does not mean forcing Haiku toward Unix in any way.
Iāve just git cloned and compiled the new Emacs with Haiku GUI.
That takes over 1.24GB to download
It does āworkā now,meaning it opens and shows a Haiku-native window.
Unfortunately I canāt read any text because it has a font size of 1 pixel or so and I have no idea how to fix that
Any ideas?
Is that a full git repo, or just a result of 36 years? I canāt recall how big it was some years ago, but this number seems to be at least one decimal off.
Edit: ok, the lates release tarball (27.2) is 40 Mb, extracted 148.
I better not comment this value.
Iām sorry but you are the only one at war against something here. I as a vim user welcome the addition of Emacs to our list of available software even if I probably wonāt use it myself.
If you donāt like it, just donāt use it. If you want other people to stop using it, build something better. Personally I have not yet found something better than vim for my needs. I have dreams of a nice native environment, but letās be honest, neither Pe nor Koder are anywhere near what I can do with vim. And also, a native Haiku editor would have to be not just as good, but significantly better, because I still would have to use vim in my paid job, and so now I would have to train my muscle memory and knowledge on two text editors, instead of just one.
