all is in title !
You made one? Where is it?
the topic is : feature requests…
Looked like you were fulfilling one.
There are several problems to think about.
Technical problems:
- Someone would also have to port OpenBFS to the NTIFS API.
- The filesystem semantics would probabaly differ a bit (Like how would you get NT ACLs to work right?)
Non-technical problems:
3. This forum is for Haiku feature requests, not Windows feature requests.
4. Your approach to the question is all wrong. Please read Eric S. Raymond’s FAQ on how to ask "smart questions"
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
and you will find the quality of the answers you get to be significantly improved. Otherwise, you’ll generally get an answer like "Write it yourself."
5. Having no useful information in the body of your post is a no-no. Unless there is a convention for empty posts (Like userfriendly’s ‘(n/t)’) people will be annoyed when they click on the thread title to read more and there is no more to read.
6. Please and Thank You always helps.
There are several problems to think about. Non-technical problems: 3. This forum is for Haiku feature requests, not Windows feature requests. 4. Your approach to the question is all wrong. Please read Eric S. Raymond's FAQ on how to ask "smart questions" http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and you will find the quality of the answers you get to be significantly improved. Otherwise, you'll generally get an answer like "Write it yourself." 5. Having no useful information in the body of your post is a no-no. Unless there is a convention for empty posts (Like userfriendly's '(n/t)') people will be annoyed when they click on the thread title to read more and there is no more to read. 6. Please and Thank You always helps.
No one asked for your advice.
Thanks.
IIRC the kit from MS to make IFS for Windows is about 1000$ US.
IFS Kit - Installable File System Kit
I’d love an HPFS and JFS IFS for both Windows and BeOS (Haiku).
4. Your approach to the question is all wrong. Please read Eric S. Raymond's FAQ on how to ask "smart questions" http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and you will find the quality of the answers you get to be significantly improved. Otherwise, you'll generally get an answer like "Write it yourself."
I doubt phrasing the request any differently would have helped at all - as you and others mentioned the cost is a bit prohibitive.
I think any user/member of the community should be able to state what they want - it provides valuable insight from a non-dev perspective - and to me it’s better to have these overall “feature” requests that leave the details for the devs to fill in than some really specific code change description.
Hopefully we’re not a community that will ignore what anyone has to say unless they phrase their questions perfectly according to some FAQ and have been hacking the kernel for at least 2 years.
Simon
This is one reason why we need a BeOS Current Information wiki somewhere. This isn’t the first time such a project has been mentioned and this post would have been avoided if it were listed.
"#615: Other operating systems interaction with BeFS partitions…"
IIRC the kit from MS to make IFS for Windows is about 1000$ US.IFS Kit - Installable File System Kit
I’d love an HPFS and JFS IFS for both Windows and BeOS (Haiku).
It is around $1000 (per seat!) if you go the commercial route.
However, there is a free ntifs.h available!
Bo Branten maintains it at Windows driver examples
License is GPL.
[quote = “tb100”]I doubt phrasing the request any differently would have helped at all - as you and others mentioned the cost is a bit prohibitive.
I think any user/member of the community should be able to state what they want - it provides valuable insight from a non-dev perspective - and to me it’s better to have these overall “feature” requests that leave the details for the devs to fill in than some really specific code change description.
Agreed. I was half expecting to get flamed for posting that list. However, to gain insight from a non-dev perspective, it requires the user to post something intelligent, anything from elaborating on the topic to a gui mockup of their idea. Otherwise, it’s all noise and no signal.
Regarding the original idea, I wonder if there is a pluggable userland filesystem project for Windows… (maybe a portable one that targets NT?)
[quote = “h_ank”]
This is one reason why we need a BeOS Current Information wiki somewhere. This isn’t the first time such a project has been mentioned and this post would have been avoided if it were listed.
“#615: Other operating systems interaction with BeFS partitions…”
It appears that there IS a wiki now. No news item about it yet, but it looks like it’s up and running: http://haiku-os.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Well, let’s hope the replies facedeCitron.NiB got didn’t put him (or her) off Haiku. Honestly, as a new joinee myself I’m really surprised at some of the responses people post in replies to questions. After all - this is the ‘Feature Requests’ forum so posing the question as facedeCitron.NiB did should be sufficient really.
I’m sure a lot of the veterans on this site are frustrated by constantly being bombarded with repetitive questions (it’s a frustrating fact of life sadly) but I would recommend taking a deep breath, counting to 5 (or 10 if necessary), then replying in a slightly more positive light (or not at all).
I thought the replies were OK really, h_ank’s were short but perfectly pleasant, BDragon went a bit OTT and his comment met with some criticism.
fade_criterion’s request is a good one, but as people have pointed out the problem seems to be with the Windows API.