Figured I’d stick my comment here. The nightly I have works great on this AMD Duron based system. Its an L7VMM motherboard.
The issue is motherboard chipset not CPU.
Your board uses VIA chipset.
VIA® KM266 (NB) & VT8233 (SB) Chipset
People having trouble with Haiku are those with AMD chipsets, 6xx & 7xx series. 8xx may work but not sure. AMD 8xx SB worked in AMD SimNow Simulator but someone will have to confirm with real hardware.
Haiku works with AMD CPUs on VIA & Nvidia motherboards.
I just wanted to point that out before someone runs out and buys an AMD (chipset) motherboard.
[quote=tonestone57]The issue is motherboard chipset not CPU.
Your board uses VIA chipset.
VIA® KM266 (NB) & VT8233 (SB) Chipset
People having trouble with Haiku are those with AMD chipsets, 6xx & 7xx series. 8xx may work but not sure. AMD 8xx SB worked in AMD SimNow Simulator but someone will have to confirm with real hardware.
Haiku works with AMD CPUs on VIA & Nvidia motherboards.
I just wanted to point that out before someone runs out and buys an AMD (chipset) motherboard.[/quote]
really it worked on amd8xx ? I will see if I can find a real system to test with.
Yes, it booted to Desktop on Live-CD but the mouse felt kinda off for movement but still worked. Not sure if mouse movement issue was from the simulator since I haven’t tested with other OSes.
You can also test with AMD’s simulator and see for yourself. It allows using prebuilt systems or you can design your own AMD system (or swap out components on a prebuilt one; ie: southbridges). I’ve only quickly tested with prebuilt systems and assume the issue is southbridge related but haven’t swapped them out to be sure. IRQ is also very likely cause but will leave to developer to figure out.
http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/7378
Simulator is kinda slow to use (only for bug fixing and testing compatibility with OSes) but good for improving AMD motherboard support on Haiku. Which should happen sooner now.
You should play with simulator first before getting any real hardware to test with & try swapping out southbridges on the SB6xx & SB7xx systems to confirm because the test systems are kinda configured differently.
Yes, it booted to Desktop on Live-CD but the mouse felt kinda off for movement but still worked. Not sure if mouse movement issue was from the simulator since I haven’t tested with other OSes.
You can also test with AMD’s simulator and see for yourself. It allows using prebuilt systems or you can design your own AMD system (or swap out components on a prebuilt one; ie: southbridges). I’ve only quickly tested with prebuilt systems and assume the issue is southbridge related but haven’t swapped them out to be sure. IRQ is also very likely cause but will leave to developer to figure out.
http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/7378
Simulator is kinda slow to use (only for bug fixing and testing compatibility with OSes) but good for improving AMD motherboard support on Haiku. Which should happen sooner now.
You should play with simulator first before getting any real hardware to test with & try swapping out southbridges on the SB6xx & SB7xx systems to confirm because the test systems are kinda configured differently.[/quote]
I was going to go down to the computer store and try booting on the AMD demo machine they have. It has a 8xx series chipset.
Well I was suprised that it worked since R1 A2 would not even get to the icons. Automatic reboot.
I booted a nightly about month back on a VIA KT600 motherboard with Athlon XP and it worked.
I never tested Alpha 2 so cannot say if that would work or not. I just assumed it would.
I see what you were trying to say now and happy for you but people should understand that AMD chipset motherboards still have trouble booting Haiku.
Your post might make some people think that Haiku works on all motherboard chipsets with AMD CPUs.
Yeah, this mobo is definitely VIA chipset based. Only CPU is AMD One question; is there a Video player thats working on Haiku? I dont see VLC listed in the ‘installoptionalpackage’ list. I looked at Mplayer but it seems most video players are not yet supported in Haiku?
there is a built in mediaplayer called “mediaplayer” under applications.
so click on the leaf/feather, then goto applications and open media player. If you double click most media, and media player supports it, It just opens mediaplayer and begins playing. Really simple.
Haiku supports those codecs. In fact I am rocking some FLAC right now while typing this. It sounds like your audio driver is fialing to start. or is non existant.
goto terminal “under Applications”
type
Listdev
curious to see which sound card you have.
Media player must not ship with the necessary codecs. It wont play an mp3 or a .flv. Maybe theres a codecs library that needs to be downloaded? Also, it wont do streaming audio like CL-Amp or SoundPlay, so internet radio is out of the question. And until those apps, and VLC are ported, Haiku wont be fully multimedia ready.
Mediaplayer should handle mp3 and probably flv. Very sure I’ve used it for mp3 audio on Haiku. You may have some type of audio issue (driver-sound card).
Older 0.8.6 VLC is available for Haiku. I’ve used it to watch divx & listen to streaming audio.
Start new thread for media playing on Haiku if you still have trouble.
Edit:
VLC used to be part of installoptionalpackage but was removed from the version listed below & newer:
http://dev.haiku-os.org/changeset/40141
My listdev output…
device Multimedia controller (Multimedia audio controller) [4|1|0]
vendor 1106: VIA Technologies, Inc.
device 3059: VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
IIRC, there were some issues with playback on this chip. Under BeOS Max there was a tweak I had to do to get it to stop popping and stuttering. That said, I can play an audio cd with mediaplayer but it seems to lag at first then settle down. Not really great quality audio though…kinda pops and stutters a bit.
device Display controller (VGA compatible controller, VGA controller) [3|0|0]
vendor 5333: S3 Inc.
device 8d04: VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
Interesting thing about the VGA is that I get severe “window tearing” or video “remnants” when I move a window or run NetPositive and BeZilla-mail and switch back and forth between them.
listimage |grep accel shows this:/accelerants/s3.accelerant
[quote=Snuhwolf]My listdev output…
device Multimedia controller (Multimedia audio controller) [4|1|0]
vendor 1106: VIA Technologies, Inc.
device 3059: VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller[/quote]
Yeah that via chipset doesn’t work well with haiku. Installing open sound might fix it, or it may cuases the system to goto KDL. Hard to say.
Installoptionalpackage -a opensound
[quote=Snuhwolf]IIRC, there were some issues with playback on this chip. Under BeOS Max there was a tweak I had to do to get it to stop popping and stuttering. That said, I can play an audio cd with mediaplayer but it seems to lag at first then settle down. Not really great quality audio though…kinda pops and stutters a bit.
device Display controller (VGA compatible controller, VGA controller) [3|0|0]
vendor 5333: S3 Inc.
device 8d04: VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
Interesting thing about the VGA is that I get severe “window tearing” or video “remnants” when I move a window or run NetPositive and BeZilla-mail and switch back and forth between them.
listimage |grep accel shows this:/accelerants/s3.accelerant [/quote]
Its the way haiku draws. The faster your cpu the less noticeable it is.Also there is no 2d accleration being enabled right now so thats likely not helping.
But if you playing games the problem is not observed. Alot of operating systems hold the draw while moving a window. I do not belive haiku does this. I actually prefer it becuase I can see where the window is going.
I haven’t tried playing any games on it yet but I bet the video would lag. I got the sound card to play mp3’s by un-selecting the “Refuse output format changes” and “refuse input format changes” boxes. The CPU is a 1.19 GHz Duron. I’d think its plenty fast.
actually on most dual core machine with modern cpu’s at 2.8ghz plus most games run at respectable frame rate for having no 2d or 3d accelration. I play ZAZ and neverball alot but I have a pretty high clocked amd phenom 2
The difference in graphics support between BeOS MAX and Haiku is noticable. Under BeOS MAX it uses the BeSavage driver. Under Haiku it uses s3. I was hoping Haiku would be usable on this pc. I guess a mobo from 2004 is a bit old as Haiku seems to be more designed for newer hardware.