We need bebits.com back!

caleb 2017-05-18 03:35:56 UTC #41

What happened with the useful BeBytes? The site is not working... http://wildman.ddns.net/be/

lelldorin 2017-05-18 06:22:54 UTC #42

Would not be the first time that a side simply goes offline. But we do not want to paint the black peter (german proverb) to the wall and think that the server is down for maintenance or something else.

michel 2017-05-18 06:44:48 UTC #43

They moved to http://www.be.wildman-productions.org/

That one is also down occasionally, though. And it doesn't look like the site is being updated with new software, I mean new OLD software.

diskette 2017-05-19 18:49:05 UTC #44

I don't think the Haiku project or Haiku Inc. or whatever should get involved. Legal problems shouldn't be Haiku's. Other people can run a repository server but don't get Haiku involved in it.

lelldorin 2017-05-19 18:52:00 UTC #45

The operator of the site is responsible for the contents

Stacked_Lambda 2017-05-19 20:48:06 UTC #46

I had to re-read my post to which yours was a reply to as this was quite sometime ago.

Essentially, I was stressing the need for a well publicized repository for applications so that any visitor to Haiku would know where to find desired applications (if ported).

Since the time of the original discussion, there are a few individuals who had existing repositories and archival web sites and indicated so to the community. A few individuals also created repositories such as BeBytes. Unfortunately, such personal sites do tend to move once-in-a-while requiring to call Google to find them again for us.

humdinger 2017-05-20 07:37:43 UTC #47

There's a list of the bigger software sites on the "Community" section of the website under Software Sites. People can report new or abandoned sites or a changed URL of a moved site. Best as a pull request for software.md.

Wildman 2017-05-25 19:23:06 UTC #48

someone needs to update the link on the software sites page

humdinger 2017-05-26 04:40:34 UTC #49

You'd be the perfect guy to do that, if you're familiar with pull-requests or wouldn't mind learning about them.
I don't even know the new official URL...

Wildman 2017-05-26 04:48:56 UTC #50

bebytes will henceforth be home at http://www.be.wildman-productions.org/ much better bandwidth and undoubtedly better uptime. as for pull requests, sure i've worked with git a bit in the past, can't say it was my favorite thing in the world..

stargater 2017-06-10 07:39:06 UTC #51

@Wildman is the source code aviable?
I think BeBits clode are nice in the new modern desing, with some funktion for 3rd-Party Application Developer and Artists.

Account
PayPal support
Stats/Ranking system
pastbin(txt, png, etc)

I Think Golang are a good language to do this.

thx stargater

Wildman 2017-11-01 06:33:39 UTC #52

it's just good old php, mysql, and html, I never got into fancy webpage engines or whatever else is out there now that is big, bloated, and brings an older x86 machine to its knees.

markh 2018-04-03 20:12:45 UTC #53

I tried to create an account at BeBytes, but did not get the verification e-mail. The "Contact Us" link goes to a nonexistent page, so I have no idea who to contact. How can I get my account activated?

Earl_Colby_Pottinger 2018-04-04 01:24:36 UTC #54

Can you also make a site HaikuBytes.org?

I do not like how complex HaikuDepot makes simple downloads. Also a number of times I use HaikuDepot and it can't find the dependencies, whereas a .ZIP file can contain all the files needed to download in a single download.

I also run in the problem where if I download all the HaikuDepot files needed for an install I still can not install since HaikuDepot insists on go to the Internet and many time I am not connected.

Again, a .ZIP file would solve the problem.

Maylay 2018-04-04 03:55:19 UTC #55

Shouldn't you be able to drop any hpkg into /system/packages/ or ~/config/packages? ZIP files are nice for sampling programs but I wouldn't want to depend on them for keeping a system up to date.

lelldorin 2018-04-04 05:10:38 UTC #56

Mmmh, you want to download zip files from the internet because haikudepot do this too?

If a package is available on haikudepot, you install all needed stuff to get it running,. If you use a zip, file you need to do all this background work by hand.

You can download the hpkg files by hand too: http://depot.haiku-os.org

Earl_Colby_Pottinger 2018-04-04 15:42:14 UTC #58

No, I like having the programs available in a storage area that I can pull from when I need it.

And I want to install the programs WHEN I want, WHERE I want, and HaikuDepot does not let you do that!.

Try your suggestion. Disconnect your internet then try dropping a hpkg into the right folder, for 70% of the programs the system will choke because it can not get the dependencies.

Look, I go to the cabin up north - No internet.

I am going to Cuba at the end of the month, do not even suggest using that slow internet.

I go on cruises later this year, not only is the internet slow, it is EXPENSIVE!

I want the ability to download all files of programs I would like to try out, and be able to add and remove them without needing internet for them.

PulkoMandy 2018-04-04 15:58:50 UTC #59

The thing to blame is not the package manager here. It's the fact that it enables people to port things with dependencies, and people make use of the feature. Most of this software would not have been available at all without a package manager.

Earl_Colby_Pottinger 2018-04-04 16:44:58 UTC #60

What I am complaining about the package manager is that it always goes to the internet for those dependencies, why can't I point it to a folder instead where I have all the .hpkg files already downloaded? Why is not wanting internet requirement a negative.

lelldorin 2018-04-04 18:06:28 UTC #61

Ok, thats the way Haiku doing installing packages. Haiku have a package management. If you want a BeOS way to install there you want, use the old alpha 4.

See my suggestion. Download all packages you need (the dependencies too, if you know which you need). Then drop the hpkg files on the package folder to install (not using HaikuDepot).

An other way is to download the hpkg files and unpack them to a place of your choice. Then drop all files you need to the non-package folder to install. But here too, you need to know the dependencies.

There is a big problem with downlading files from othere sources, because all zip files can include old program versions with old source folders for the program files. Many of them are write protected in Haiku, so you does not can install them this way anymore.

So my tip, download all needed hpkg packages on your system to install then if you need by hand, dropping them to package folder, or unpacking and placing them in non-package.