Stack And tile shortcuts/improvements

[damoklas]

@PulkoMandy

the key labelled altgr and one of the two labelled with a windows logo are option keys, while the right windows and left alt keys are command keys.

This is confusing.
Win keys should be CMD and ALT / ALTGR should be OPT like in MacOS.

It is better to take the key layout from the PC keyboard (ctrl - cmd - opt ____ opt - cmd - ctrl). In my opinion.

[Null]

@Null

@PulkoMandy

It seems in reality very few people use these right-side keys and so no one really notices?

I do.

I have realized that I misunderstood your message. So I do not use Alt Gr as mapped in Haiku. I use it as it is intended.

[Null]

@damoklas

This is confusing.
Win keys should be CMD and ALT / ALTGR should be OPT like in MacOS.

This is also confusing. PC keyboard layouts should work as PC keyboard layout is intended, and Apple-like keyboard layouts should work as intended.

That means Alt Gr should work as Alt Gr is intended.

@damoklas

It is better to take the key layout from the PC keyboard (ctrl - cmd - opt ____ opt - cmd - ctrl). In my opinion.

That is not a PC keyboard layout. That is some kind of PC/Apple hybrid. It’s confusing.

[damoklas]

@Null

That is not a PC keyboard layout. That is some kind of PC/Apple hybrid. It’s confusing.

I will say in other words:
ctrl - cmd(win, super, os, meta, logo) - opt(altgr/alt) ____ opt(altgr/alt) - cmd(win, super, os, meta, logo) - ctrl

…Best of both worlds.

[Zenja]

Speaking of keyboards, most decent keyboards have exchangeable keycaps.

So yes, you can get keycaps with Command, option and anything else.

[Sarreq_Teryx]

which is why the work should go in to fix the mappings/labeling in the OS/User Guide

@X512

It is command key. Alt is implementation detail. Haiku have no enough finances to manufacture its own keyboards so most popular Windows keyboards are used. There are no Cmd on Windows keyboard.

Which is why the work should be put in to fix the mappings/labeling in the OS/User Guide.
continuing to preserve the poor design decisions of the BeOS devs is not a good idea.

It would make more sense to set the mapping based on what type of keyboard the user has, where Ctrl == Ctrl, Command == Logo(Win/Super/Meta, because it near always has some kind of logo on it), and Allt/Opt == Opt. if you’ve got a Mac keyboard then the keys are Control, Option, Command. PCs have Ctrl, Logo, Alt.

Even though there’s no reason to emulate Mac at all, there is reason to make sense when is comes to matching key names between the screen and keyboard. it makes absolute no sense, and confuses people when you arbitrarily call a key something it’s not. Cmd = Alt is just confusing to anyone whose used a computer keyboard for the past 40 years, but has never seen Be or Haiku.