On the closure of the "On LLM policy of HaikuPorts" thread

Oh,another month,another drama :roll_eyes:
Don’t these pro-LLM guys have anything better to do than trying to push their opinion on everyone?
The dedicated forum category for slop is really great,makes it super easy to mute that nonsense.
Unfortunately this one escaped the echochamber and here we go again,discussing the moderating decisions of voluntary moderators because they tried to redirect a discussion to the place where it belongs.
This doesn’t serve any other purpose than trying to split the community,does it?
I can’t tell you how happy I am not to be a moderator or someone doing voluntary work in these crazy times.

Speaking about frustration,as 3dEyes noted…
I actually see some similarities to my personal viewpoint,but the outcome is very different.
Haiku has also always been a breath of freedom for me,freedom from proprietary garbage and Big Tech monopolies,from ads and trackers and enshittification.
A small isle where things were done differently,more quality-focused and human-focused,not with profit or marketshare or the latest trends in mind.
I’m unfortunate to live in a decade where the human being isn’t really worth a lot anymore.
In many cases,humans aren’t the customer anymore,but the thing they sell to advertisers.
Things aren’t built anymore to make people happy,but to squeeze as much money as possible out of them.
At work,humans are only seen as a cost factor that needs to be removed,ideally replaced by some dumb machines that are cheaper and don’t ask questions.
Yeah,really not great times to be alive as a human.
Having a small project that still values human work and the idea of technically good software to escape from a otherwise crazy and awful world has been great,but now some people try to force corporate bullshit right into my face and don’t understand a “No”.

There used to be a general consensus on ethics that wasn’t written down but still clear to everyone,like not stealing other peoples work or not DDoSing other peoples servers.
No,I’m not going to iterate all the negative effects of LLMs over again,that would be pointless and it’s absolutely clear that some people simply don’t care at all,but it should be noted that the “tools” under discussion are actively harming the infrastructure of Haiku and other open-source projects and the social contract of FOSS licensing.
Having to discuss the obvious over and over again with the other side just stating “so what,I don’t care,and others are doing it too” is really,really frustrating and makes me question why I’m still contributing to open-source.
I’m sure some people would like to see me gone,maybe they’ll be happy in the not too distant future if things continue going downwards.

Speaking about moderation,I sometimes find this forum not strict enough.
There are people comparing this place with a gulag or fascism,*what the ***?!?!
Let me tell you,you’re free to leave if you hate this place so much.
I think that the moderators should remove such tasteless insults against the whole community and the project.
In my opinion,the forum and the moderation policies should benefit the whole community and the project as a whole instead of letting every single person speak out freely while driving away others that prefer not to read such drama and offensive language over and over again.
This once was a place for constructive and peaceful discussion and a place where users help users,it should really become that again.
If that means that some people deeply unhappy with the choices of the current maintainers leave and create a LLM-generated fork,so be it.

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