New SoB team member: kirilla

Looks like we have another new member on TeamHaiku’s crunchers on TeamHaiku: kirilla!

Thanks for the support, we greatly appreciate it!

umccullough wrote:
Thanks for the support, we greatly appreciate it!

Thank you! I suppose it’s bad, throwing watts at math for little apparent gain, but I’m just happy to be able to finally use Haiku for something remotely meaningful. :slight_smile:

Guts and glory!

/Jonas.

jonas.kirilla wrote:
umccullough wrote:
Thanks for the support, we greatly appreciate it!

Thank you! I suppose it’s bad, throwing watts at math for little apparent gain, but I’m just happy to be able to finally use Haiku for something remotely meaningful. :slight_smile:

Guts and glory!

/Jonas.

Are you actually running the sbclient on Haiku?

umccullough wrote:
Are you actually running the sbclient on Haiku?

Of course! Anything else would be cheating, IMO.

jonas.kirilla wrote:
umccullough wrote:
Are you actually running the sbclient on Haiku?

Of course! Anything else would be cheating, IMO.

LOL…all my machines are Windows boxes… while I’d love to be running Haiku on my work machine, friend’s computers, my parent’s machine, etc - I just can’t convince them all :wink:

Once I get networking working on Haiku - I’ll try to set up the BeOS sb client. Right now, the SiS900 driver doesn’t work for me, and my other box has a 3com card, which I can’t seem to get the BeOS driver to work for yet.

I don’t think Haiku is stable enough to run for more than a day or two at the moment - I know my Haiku install was barely functional after 24 hours - but that could be due to a screensaver running that whole time.

jonas.kirilla wrote:
umccullough wrote:
Are you actually running the sbclient on Haiku?

Of course! Anything else would be cheating, IMO.

Please grab a screendump of that running sometime - then when you reboot next, post it somewhere (or email to me if you want)…it’ll make a good statement eventually I think :slight_smile:

You’re welcome to use http://flickr.com/photos/johndrinkwater/114323986/ for propaganda![/url]

[Beta wrote:
"]You're welcome to use http://flickr.com/photos/johndrinkwater/114323986/ for propaganda![/url]

I know - (i didn’t forget you were the first to try it) - but I want to get some additional shots too :wink:

I’m actually kinda thinking of putting a few screenshots together of different users - and posting them on the SoB forums… HaiCube had posted there some time ago trying to see if Haiku could be called out as a separate OS in their statistics - and nobody responded.

Just some more "marketing" ideas sorta :wink:

What i’d love to see is a BeOS GUI client for it, and maybe a Deskbar replicant…
Does one exist already and I missed it?

[Beta wrote:
"]What i'd love to see is a BeOS GUI client for it, and maybe a Deskbar replicant.. Does one exist already and I missed it?

Looncraz made a GUI at one point, and I seem to recall someone looking for it previously. I’m not sure how well it worked, and it appears to be difficult to find now…

Here’s the thread:

http://www.haiku-os.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=706&highlight=looncraz

you’ll see that Meanwhile posted a link for it there.

There is also another one on bebits:

http://bebits.com/app/3192

UPDATE: if anyone knows where the source to these 2 clients is, please let me know…

http://www.kirilla.com/tmp/sob.png

You can almost see the motion blur. :}

jonas.kirilla wrote:
http://www.kirilla.com/tmp/sob.png

You can almost see the motion blur. :}

awesome… I forgot to ask you - do you have DNS working in Haiku? or did you simply hardcode the server IPs?

umccullough wrote:
do you have DNS working in Haiku? or did you simply hardcode the server IPs?

It appears to be working out of the box. I set up networking with ifconfig and route, and added my nick and team to sb’s sclient.conf file. That’s all. It could be that my DLink firewall forwards DNS. I had not given DNS a single thought until now. :stuck_out_tongue:

jonas.kirilla wrote:
umccullough wrote:
do you have DNS working in Haiku? or did you simply hardcode the server IPs?

It appears to be working out of the box. I set up networking with ifconfig and route, and added my nick and team to sb’s sclient.conf file. That’s all. It could be that my DLink firewall forwards DNS. I had not given DNS a single thought until now. :stuck_out_tongue:

The default nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf is 192.168.0.1 - it may be that your DLink firewall is at that IP and you just lucked out :slight_smile:

umccullough wrote:
The default nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf is 192.168.0.1 - it may be that your DLink firewall is at that IP and you just lucked out :)

Hehe… That is indeed the case!

Even my firewall doesn’t hardcode the nameservers,
but gets them from, I believe, DHCP.

I’ve created a second account, to see if there’s a difference between Haiku and BeOS.

kirilla - Haiku
http://www.seventeenorbust.com/stats/users/user.mhtml?userID=11101

kirilla2 - BeOS
http://www.seventeenorbust.com/stats/users/user.mhtml?userID=11132

The two computers should be equal, each having a 2 GHz Celeron and 512 MB RAM.
The BeOS computer is my everyday workstation, FWIW. Some of the difference can be accounted to running Mozilla, I suppose. Time will tell.

I had a look at what ‘sysinfo’ says about the CPU on both systems,
and while Haiku knows the CPU in detail, it’s unknown to BeOS.

Does the the unability of BeOS to properly enumerate the instruction
set extensions supported by the CPU stop applications from using them?

Is kernel cooperation necessary, and if so what does it have to do?
Saving registers on context switches?

jonas.kirilla wrote:
I had a look at what 'sysinfo' says about the CPU on both systems, and while Haiku knows the CPU in detail, it's unknown to BeOS.

Does the the unability of BeOS to properly enumerate the instruction
set extensions supported by the CPU stop applications from using them?

Is kernel cooperation necessary, and if so what does it have to do?
Saving registers on context switches?

I think that sb uses x86 assembly to do all that directly - shouldn’t rely much on the OS for that kind of stuff.