Maybe I can help

Hello

I’m a uni student @ Skövde in Sweden, and I was thinking maybe I could sneak in the client there, there’s atleast 70 computers (P4’s) that just sits and do nothing all night (except in the rare case when someone is rendering on the farm).

Problerm is, I have no admin rights ofcourse, and I don’t know what ports are open and which are closed… but if the client doesnt need a ‘proper’ install which explicitly asks for admin right, and if it communicates on common ports, then it might work.

reallyjoel wrote:
Hello

I’m a uni student @ Skövde in Sweden, and I was thinking maybe I could sneak in the client there, there’s atleast 70 computers (P4’s) that just sits and do nothing all night (except in the rare case when someone is rendering on the farm).

Problerm is, I have no admin rights ofcourse, and I don’t know what ports are open and which are closed… but if the client doesnt need a ‘proper’ install which explicitly asks for admin right, and if it communicates on common ports, then it might work.

For windows it does need admin rights since the program sets up registry settings. It’s not a good idea to set up the program if you don’t permission to do so. There is a case here in the US where somebody got in to serious trouble for setting up another distributed computing project.

As much as we could use the computing power, I’d rather not see somebody get into legal or financial trouble and ruin their future because of it.

Maybe you could just ask the sysadmin? If he’s not a complete tool, he might help you set it up. Couldn’t hurt to ask.

True, I asked him once to set up VS .NET in a perticular computer room, and he had it set up the next day.

Only thing is, the render farm needs to have top priority over it, so it doesn’t steal cpu hours from Maya.

reallyjoel wrote:
True, I asked him once to set up VS .NET in a perticular computer room, and he had it set up the next day.

Only thing is, the render farm needs to have top priority over it, so it doesn’t steal cpu hours from Maya.

I would be EXTREMELY hesitant to set up the client on a large number of machines without explicit permission. There have been lawsuits in the past filed against ex-employees, etc. for "unauthorized usage" of computer resources for distributed computing projects.

While the “wear and tear” on the computer may not be significant enough to claim serious damages - the power consumption and potential loss of productivity (as a result of CPU usage when it’s needed most) is a real concern. It’s also simply immoral.

Anyhow, that’s my disclaimer - I don’t know how the laws work in Sweden anyhow.

As for the priority - the SoB client tends to give up it’s cpu time readily - but I do occasionally have to stop it on my workstation here at work when I’m in the middle of something very CPU-intensive to get every available cycle I can.

umccullough wrote:
reallyjoel wrote:
True, I asked him once to set up VS .NET in a perticular computer room, and he had it set up the next day.

Only thing is, the render farm needs to have top priority over it, so it doesn’t steal cpu hours from Maya.

I would be EXTREMELY hesitant to set up the client on a large number of machines without explicit permission. There have been lawsuits in the past filed against ex-employees, etc. for "unauthorized usage" of computer resources for distributed computing projects.

While the “wear and tear” on the computer may not be significant enough to claim serious damages - the power consumption and potential loss of productivity (as a result of CPU usage when it’s needed most) is a real concern. It’s also simply immoral.

Anyhow, that’s my disclaimer - I don’t know how the laws work in Sweden anyhow.

As for the priority - the SoB client tends to give up it’s cpu time readily - but I do occasionally have to stop it on my workstation here at work when I’m in the middle of something very CPU-intensive to get every available cycle I can.

Ahh, Sweden, in that sense, is a lot more liberal than US. I think the worst that could happen is that someone says “Naughty naughty boy”. But still, it’s wise to ask the Sysadmin, but don’t be surprised if you get a simple “NO!”. Otherwise I would guess it’s possible to add something to “start-up” which starts the stuff anyway, not sure that it really needs admin rights…