Dont we already have a very old version of ThunderBird called MailNews?
Might be best to remove that from the repo once this is available.
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The one who will do the porting work can name it whatever she/he wants!
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MailNews is/was such a great app and the best email client app this side of Beatwareās Mail-It email client app for BeOS.
Of course I still love and appreciate the default email application that comes with Haiku. I use it on the 64-bit version of Haiku since MailNews is not an option.
Iāve installed LibreWolf (although itās not at HDS for some reason, it shows up in the HaikuDepot appā¦).
Perhaps unsurprisingly, it tends to hog at least one core on just about every website, just like IceWeasel (I assume both browser use the same ābackendā). This kicks my fan into high gear very quickly, so I only use it on the sites that donāt work well with WebPositive.
What are the diffs between the Weasel and the Wolf? Anyone would like to give their reasons to prefer one over the other?
https://librewolf.net/#what-is-librewolf
TL;DR a more anti-fingerprinting browser version of iceweasel. But also some more paranoid/wierd default settings like saving no cookies and suchā¦
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It is as @nephele said, a more hardened Firefox. By default cookies are indeed deleted on exit, but I consider it a feature, not a problem. More often than not, you really donāt need cookies. You can (and should) set which websitesā cookies are going to be preserved, e.g. this discourse, any mail client, etc. It wonāt take long until you have a list of them. My list of such websites is not long at all, about 15 websites. Cookies from anything else are deleted, leading to a more ācleanā browser.
I use Librewolf on GNU/Linux & FreeBSD and frankly, I see no reason to look for something else. Iām glad I can now use it on Haiku as well. But my rule will remain the same, WebPositive whenever it causes no issues, otherwise an alternative browser - from now on Librewolf.
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Thereās also hardened abrowser from the trisquel distro:
I like FoxPositive and StormBird. Iceweasle is not a good name IMHO. But heyā¦ it is what it is.
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Honestly, iāve been using LibreWolf for a whileā¦ itās a nice compromise. The biggest things you notice are:
- You have to tell LibreWolf to remember cookies between browser sessions for individual sites. (lock ā Always store cookies / data for this site)
- HTML Canvas access needs enabled per site to not get the random āvertical line imagesā. Frequently Asked Questions ā LibreWolf
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Also packaged LibreWolf myself here, one big no go is that it doesnāt seem to store passwords, so even using the forum I have to fill in my credentials again after a restart. IceWeasel is still good on that part.
Logins are saved if you make an exception to store cookies for that website. As kallisti5 pointed out above, thatās quickest done by clicking on the lock symbol in the URL locator and choosing Always store cookies / data for this site.
This is exactly how I prefer it to be. In fact, I used to use Firefox with some plugin to behave just like that. Then it wasnāt available any more for the mobile Firefox a while back and I now use the DuckDuckGo browser for my modest mobile browsing needs.
Personally, Iād love to see WebPositive do the same thing: clear all unless the website was protected by the user.
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My bad then, I need to do some RTFM before I start with things I guess 
Back to the IceWeasel topic, I must admit 1.36.0 is amazingly fast on Haiku, there was a moment that I forgot that I was actually browsing on Haiku (this is an endorsement), all the sites I visited worked and the performance was excellent, I could forget about the software and OS and focus on the content, itās that good. And knowing how passionate the Haiku devs are, Iām 100% certain that the day will come where the experience under Haiku will be better than the experience in other OSās. Minus the flickering cursor, the web browsing experience is that same as with other OSās (which they have taken for granted for the last decade, and it has always been a pain point for Haiku community, but not any more). Well done everyone.
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Yes, I can confirm that. Not the greatest problem in the world, but it does prevent me from adding it to the Featured Apps list.
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It looks like HaikuPorts stopped importing sometime after 2025-03-11 15:37:02 which is some days ago. It should have sent out a warning but that doesnāt seem to have happened.
@kallisti5 ; are you able to get me some logs (see here) so I can see what is happening and hopefully I/we can sort it out soon.
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Hmmā¦ the HDS site appears to show all other recently add/updated packages, like Cantor from this morning (2025-03-15 07:42:55).
Next: Betterfox?
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I tried to build it, but it is not a trivial task as there are no sources, but only a script and a huge set of patches.
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While youāre bringing over Firefox forks, please do try with Zen Browser too. While it has its own theming (read: wonāt fit in with the rest of Haiku), it does have a sidebar-centric layout which has been getting popular lately.