- Something similar to Android, only 100% faster.
- Live queries used of various tasks.
- lightweight without missing features.
- Short boot/shutdown time.
Wouldn’t it be cool? 
I like it!
I’ve been considering similar things, not that I am myself really interested in it but rather that I want Haiku to find a commercial niche. My dream scenario would be to have several core devs paid for working full time on Haiku, but in order to do that there needs to be some company funding them, which would likely require some way for this company to recuperate it’s investment. Maybe tablets could be such a market, maybe some sort of enterprise desktop solution? While there’s not a big market for selling desktop support in overall, the Haiku team could offer an extensive technical level in their support which would include actually tailoring the OS to the customers needs. I’d be interested in hearing if someone else has some ideas of how the Haiku devs could turn their hobby into a full time job.
My fears are that a commercial venture could result in a closed-source version of Haiku which would likely leave the open source project straggling.
I don’t know, the desktop seems to be a dead end commercially, but since Haiku really is a desktop OS it would be wonderful if it could find a commercial niche there, atleast enough to allow full time development for some of the core devs.
Oh, and a happy new year everyone!
[quote=Rox]I’ve been considering similar things, not that I am myself really interested in it but rather that I want Haiku to find a commercial niche. My dream scenario would be to have several core devs paid for working full time on Haiku, but in order to do that there needs to be some company funding them, which would likely require some way for this company to recuperate it’s investment. Maybe tablets could be such a market, maybe some sort of enterprise desktop solution? While there’s not a big market for selling desktop support in overall, the Haiku team could offer an extensive technical level in their support which would include actually tailoring the OS to the customers needs. I’d be interested in hearing if someone else has some ideas of how the Haiku devs could turn their hobby into a full time job.
My fears are that a commercial venture could result in a closed-source version of Haiku which would likely leave the open source project straggling.
I don’t know, the desktop seems to be a dead end commercially, but since Haiku really is a desktop OS it would be wonderful if it could find a commercial niche there, atleast enough to allow full time development for some of the core devs.
Oh, and a happy new year everyone![/quote]
Small enterprise bussines with a SAS “software as a service” arrangement could work well. It also doesn’t have to be outrageously exspensive. $45 per year or something. It also won’t be vailble without WINE. Only becuase 95% of enterprise apps are written for company X of some flavor.
Haiku + Wine with SAS revenue model = sucess.
thats to get the ball rolling, with a steady revenue stream I could see the core devs building some very competitive software to replace the software from company X.
[quote=Rox]I’ve been considering similar things, not that I am myself really interested in it but rather that I want Haiku to find a commercial niche. My dream scenario would be to have several core devs paid for working full time on Haiku, but in order to do that there needs to be some company funding them, which would likely require some way for this company to recuperate it’s investment. Maybe tablets could be such a market, maybe some sort of enterprise desktop solution? While there’s not a big market for selling desktop support in overall, the Haiku team could offer an extensive technical level in their support which would include actually tailoring the OS to the customers needs. I’d be interested in hearing if someone else has some ideas of how the Haiku devs could turn their hobby into a full time job.
My fears are that a commercial venture could result in a closed-source version of Haiku which would likely leave the open source project straggling.
I don’t know, the desktop seems to be a dead end commercially, but since Haiku really is a desktop OS it would be wonderful if it could find a commercial niche there, atleast enough to allow full time development for some of the core devs.
Oh, and a happy new year everyone![/quote]I completely disagree with the ‘dead end’ thing. Sure laptops have taken over a little in the business world, but otherwise it’s only the small minority of homes that want more space. Desktops, in my opinion, are here to stay… Haiku partially proves that. PC enthusiasts love 'em! Especially the ‘Build My Own PC’ crowd, which also gives the added benefit of making sure on components are compatible with Haiku.
Happy new year to you too!
I hope you are right Paspie, having atleast the core devs working full time on improving Haiku specifically for the desktop would be awesome. Being one of those in the ‘Build My Own PC’ crowd (Out of the 12 PC computers I’ve owned I’ve built 10) I see what you mean but at the same time I think we are quite the minority.
thatguy
Haiku + Wine with SAS revenue model = sucess.
I don’t know if Wine is considered a viable solution in the enterprise environment, I’d imagine they’d rather use virtualization (which could be solved with a VirtualBox port I suppose). Not that I wouldn’t love a Wine port for Haiku, I just doubt it would be part of a successful business proposition (still alot of incompabilities, and they can’t be fixed by the Haiku devs who must depend on upstream fixes). VirtualBox though, if correctly ported should offer perfect compability for those legacy enterprise apps. Leaving the Haiku devs to perfect the ‘Haiku’ part of the solution.
Their selling point could be a very versatile desktop solution with a high level of expertize which would allow them to specifically tailor Haiku to their customers needs, and viola! Haiku team becomes a enterprise desktop oriented Red Hat style success! Well, one can dream… 
[quote=Rox]I hope you are right Paspie, having atleast the core devs working full time on improving Haiku specifically for the desktop would be awesome. Being one of those in the ‘Build My Own PC’ crowd (Out of the 12 PC computers I’ve owned I’ve built 10) I see what you mean but at the same time I think we are quite the minority.
thatguy
Haiku + Wine with SAS revenue model = sucess.
I don’t know if Wine is considered a viable solution in the enterprise environment, I’d imagine they’d rather use virtualization (which could be solved with a VirtualBox port I suppose). Not that I wouldn’t love a Wine port for Haiku, I just doubt it would be part of a successful business proposition (still alot of incompabilities, and they can’t be fixed by the Haiku devs who must depend on upstream fixes). VirtualBox though, if correctly ported should offer perfect compability for those legacy enterprise apps. Leaving the Haiku devs to perfect the ‘Haiku’ part of the solution.
Their selling point could be a very versatile desktop solution with a high level of expertize which would allow them to specifically tailor Haiku to their customers needs, and viola! Haiku team becomes a enterprise desktop oriented Red Hat style success! Well, one can dream… :)[/quote]
actually alot of enterprise software runs great under wine. VM would be good as well but doesn’t remove the liscensing costs of a windows instilation.
Well, QNX has gone into tablet world, I think tablets are the next big thing. What’s more, Qt is used in many portable devices, specially would mention Nokia, so it could be a good source of app porting.
I would be very happy to see a custom Haiku distro for tablets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2kGsV84SP0
RIM bought QNX for their tablet and may use the OS later in newer smartphone models. People should stick with latest Android tablets/phones or iPad/iPhone because they have lots more applications to play with (ie: forget about PlayBook).
Qt is already available for Haiku and been so for some time. I ran Qt applications on Haiku since 1 or 2 years ago.
Biggest issue with tablets is upgrading the OS requires flashing a new version. I found this out when looking to buy a tablet. I am not excited about having to depend on manufacturer to provide newer Android version or waiting for 3rd party to hack a version together to flash. Other words, it might be harder getting the OS onto tablets or supporting them. Not easy like laptops & desktops where you install to disk drive.
PS Would be cool to have Haiku on tablets but don’t think that’ll happen or take long time to occur. You don’t even see Linux on tablets. The popular tablet OSes are Android, iOS and maybe Windows and not likely to change.
[quote=tonestone57]You don’t even see Linux on tablets. The popular tablet OSes are Android, iOS and maybe Windows and not likely to change.
Well, technically Linux is a very big part of Android, but I see your point.
What I meant, was custom Haiku fork. There’s x86 tablets out there, but not much operating systems for DIY tablets.
I converted Asus EEEPC 900 into tablet, and find, that there’s much options on the software side. At first I tried Windows XP, didn’t work very well. Then I tried Android, that didn’t work at all (it needs hardware buttons to work properly). Currently there’s custom Ubuntu, but the problem is, that there’s no decent virtual keyboard.
While I like the idea of Haiku on a Tablet, I don’t know if touch support is ready? Anyway, a great niche would be to run programs on virtualized hardware, and use RDP or VNC to control the app. A basic thin client that just works. I see that being a better fit for the short time, as Haiku is not ready for prime time for users that aren’t tech savvy. This is the same position that linux was in 15 yrs ago.