This forum category is supposed to be for discussing software with LLM generated code and proprietary software by its authors, not place for discussing AI tools itself. Discussing AI tools moral etc. concerns is offtopic here and it should be removed by moderators.
If you reject any use and interaction with AI tools, you should ignore this forum category, it is not for you.
Nah, this doesn’t only “technically” break the rules. It just breaks them. Translation tools are allowed, llms (chatbots) are not. Quite easy to understand.
No, it isn’t offtopic. And we won’t remove posts just because you don’t like them.
Then what is the point of this forum category if its authors can’t be handled with respect and should hear the same preaching?
If you see a disrespectfull post you can flag it. As for the preaching, nobody is forcing you to preach.
I am pretty sure X512 was referring to other people preaching the evilness of LLMs. 
This is a rant. If it offends you, first ask yourself if you are part of the solution or part of the problem before responding.
I’ve been staying out of this but in my mind, forum admins and Haiku devs don’t like AI, so a new category was created for those that do to not upset anyone who wants to have nothing to do with AI. This was so baiting and heated discussions were avoided and everyone didn’t descend in the AI debate mode in the main forum topics. AI people are now respectful and use the AI category. But now you say it is fine for people to start the same arguments in the categories that are allowed to talk about AI? This seems like a double standard and I respectfully disagree with you position. You don’t want AI, fine - we have a place to discuss it that doesn’t hurt your feelings. But you are allowed to come and bait the respectful and productive threads about AI? Double standards.
I’m still flabbergasted that both PowerPC and ARM ports boot to a desktop because of AI, but you devs are unwilling to accept the code back. That seems incredibly short sighted and fairly destructive behaviour. I mean TabbyOS is doing something you guys were only dreaming about before, and Haiku has booted on an M1 MacBook. Meanwhile, your code boots in x86 and x64, which is amazing , but pretty much nothing else. I guess RISCV, but it’s unclear what specific boards or if that code is even in the main repository.
It sometimes feels like NIH syndrome in Haiku devland. It quite sad to see that.
I’ll just add a +1, though I think AtomoZero would give this post a +1000! 
I recently managed to apply a patch with Claude’s assistance that enables multi-core support for Haiku on my Sony VAIO P netbook (the 2017 Atom-based model). Before that, I could only use half of the CPU cores.
While the VAIO P boasts a truly timeless design, its unique and limited hardware specs meant that AntiX Linux or WinXP was practically the only viable operating system for it. However, after coming across a post by a Japanese friend who experimented with Haiku on VAIO P, I decided to give it another try. To my delight, Haiku delivers significantly better performance than AntiX. Lately, I’ve been enjoying the process of “baking” the necessary applications myself—though I say “baking” because I’m configuring and compiling existing tools rather than building them from scratch.
To some, this niche setup and endeavor might seem rather bizarre or even repulsive.
In the country where I live, two semiconductor giants are thriving off the AI bubble, with plans to expand their facilities even onto former military grounds. From public officials(also president) to young students, society as a whole is deeply captivated by AI, to the extent that local governments offer subsidies for AI subscription fees. At the same time, AI-driven drones are causing tragic casualties in Eastern Europe, and global temperatures continue to rise each year. It almost feels as though we might all end up oversteamed like dim sum before reaching our natural lifespans. Given all this, should I refrain from using AI altogether? I don’t believe so. Discarding a perfectly functional VAIO P simply because it only utilizes half its CPU capacity seems far more harmful to our planet.
In my neighborhood, there is a fried chicken restaurant where robots handle the frying. Honestly, the quality is exceptional—likely due to the precise control over frying duration and sauce measurements. While I order from them occasionally, that doesn’t mean I stop supporting our local family-owned shops. I genuinely believe that humanity and automation can coexist harmoniously.
Moving forward, I intend to keep advocating for principled AI and raising my voice for the ethical development of software, participating in protests if necessary. I welcome open and thoughtful discussions on this topic. However, I sincerely hope we do not reach a point where developers are sidelined or newcomers are ousted simply for leveraging LLMs in their writing or coding.