GSoC 2021 Progress Update 1: Modernizing Caya | Haiku Project

[Wildman]

with regards to the protocols caya uses, I am hosting services to allow usage of OSCAR (AIM/ICQ), YMSG, and MSNP protocols: http://phoenixim.ddns.net/

[extrowerk]

@SamuraiCrow

How would that stack up against Beam in this context?

AFAIK Beam dot uses BFS features, you probably meant mail_daemon.

[ilfelice]

@PulkoMandy

I think the idea of “let’s use BFS and Tracker for everything” usually does not work all that well when you try to use it for more than fun demos. Tracker does one thing well: file management. Trying to get it to do more things does not work.

This is true. Tracker does not need to become the front end for every app. But the use of People file attributes for online status opens up the possibility of queries, which is what makes BFS interesting and Haiku unique.

[PulkoMandy]

@SamuraiCrow

I’ve heard BFS’ query language is based on a parsing expression grammar. Is a directory structure of links too expensive or too difficult to maintain? How would that stack up against Beam in this context?

The problem is not in BFS or in the query language. It’s in the GUI side of things. Tracker just doesn’t have a way to render a set of files in a tree view that’s unrelated to how they are stored in the filesystem, and it shouldn’t need to do that.

The use of BFS for mails makes some sense and works reasonably well. The problem is wanting to use Tracker as the UI for everything, when in fact it is just a file manager.

[fkap]

Thanks @PulkoMandy. That clarification made things clearer (I think) for someone reading this thread.

[brunobastardi]

@fkap

That clarification made things clearer (I think)

yes, but now there are more thoughts about the general layout for the Caya project.
I have to admit I have no idea now whats looking good or what would work for this project, I am out as a user.

[jaidedcd]

Quick update: At the request of Barrett, I’ve hard-forked and renamed the project, the new repo can be found over here.