Google's Fuchsia operating system gets first release soonerish

So your suggestion is that in addition to the problems we have writing drivers, we should also have problems designing our own hardware? Sorry but I’m not going there. I have enough problems with “work in progress” hardware in my paid job, having to ask the company who provides the hardware to gives us instructions on where to cut a trace on the PCB and solder a resistor, or sending us small patch PCBs to add to the board because something doesn’t work at the hardware level and there is no software workaround. I’d rather use a PC that was already tested and got to the market, thanks.

A PC for each app? When I can just use the same laptop that I use for everything else and can easily carry around? I’m sorry but this feel a bit nonsensical to me.

Don’t forget to ask Haiku inc to give permission for use of the Haiku trademark. And good luck with your venture :slight_smile:

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What I meant was:
If adobe products would run just one a hypothetical “adobe pc”, this hypothetical adobe pc would still sell well, just because of those programs.
In fact, this is so far the only reason why I keep windows as an dual boot option, because of adobe products and some 3D-CAD software not running on linux.

I wanted to explain the idea of: choosing small set of hardware, focusing just on that and on software that is productive/useful/impressive.

Do you have an estimation of how many unique users are using haiku on a monthly basis?

It is not a conspiracy, it is historic fact. The Crypto AG case is very famous and the USA even admitted it. The spying of the German canceler by the USA is also know fact and I think USA apologized… i guess for being caught. The manipulated cisco routers are also part to the known history.

Now you have also this

Quoting from the US senate
“Whoever wins the race to the technologies of the future is going to be the global economic leader with profound consequences for foreign policy and national security as well.”

It is know fact that 5G is technology of future… and that Huawei had the most patents and had the biggest contribution to the development… and that they have the best performing devices … and also on top of that the best price.

USA wants to win “the race to the technologies of the future” but in an unfair way. My best guess is that europe would have had the same treatment from the USA, if Europe would have been such a big competitor as china to the USA.

It is very clear that there is a technology war. And Huawei is just the most know case… but according to the following financial times article… there are more than 100 companies in the same situation.

https://www.ft.com/content/795060b7-1932-4491-af6f-d983e3cffb50

And quaoting the ex CEO of Intel: “Only the paranoid survive”

Dang, this thread went maybe a little too off-topic. It went from talking about Fuchsia to international politics.

wew

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Stolen IP and spying might have a little something to do with Huaweis treatment.

And Nokia is a European company in the 5G tech, not facing any of these “unfair” practices from the US.

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when it comes to google, it is very good to get into the political aspect. Google tries to infiltrate at the root, and then at a later point it is hard to switch.

I am using sometimes google.com with a huawei browser to search… and I get often flagged as “robot” and I have to prove by choosing pictures to prove that I am not a robot… and this never happened to me when using other browsers.

Which stolen IP? Do you mean the fact that Huawei ist the company with the most 5G patents and that USA introduced (or planned to introduce) a law such that Huawei is not getting paid in the US for their patents?
Which Spying? Any Proof? What about Crypto AG??? There you have the proof of spying and even the official confession by the USA authorities. The spy pretend to be the guardian of the secret… and this for decades. And you still takes the words of USA authorities without proof??

Forbes Oct 5, 2020

No. It is better to discuss which parts of Fuchsia and Zircon may be useful for developing Haiku (UEFI, video drivers etc.). It is licensed under BSD/MIT license so Google can’t resist using it in other projects.

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haiku needs a big corporate sponsor, or serious growth in the user base and funding !!

Being under the thumb of a big commercial sponsor is the last thing Haiku needs. Expanding the user base is needed though. The trick is how to get the latter without the former. An operating system is just plumbing, after all.

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If I were going to go that route, I’d go after Atari. They have an “in” with AMD for the VCS 800, and Haiku would make a good “beginner” OS to have working with it. Then there’s the advantage that they’re not really big enough to cause problems with it.

I’d offer commercial use liscense with support, same way Redhat did or does

also get nativ 3d drivers

Redhat is a subsidiary of IBM. Need I say more?

True. I was thinking more of working Wi-Fi and HDMI audio.

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