Piling up automatically collected data is useless to the dev team. What we need is people motivated enough to follow up on their reports, test new nightly builds and see if their issues are fixed. This is true in general already, but especially so for hardware related problems, where we often have no other way to test than asking the user to run a test build.
So, if you have problems with your hardware, and you want them fixed, as a user you need to put some effort in too. Not just click a button and forget about it.
True. But it may be nice for the opposite situation: reporting the hardware that does work under Haiku. That way people can easier find the components that do work when they are in the market for a new rig.
Devs don’t have to get involved. If the OT’s Google doc form is the officially sanctioned way of tracking hardware, we should add a “Report your hardware” Web+ bookmark to the image and see where to link to it from the website.
Additionally, maybe we could consider giving this a more permanent home, somewhere on the main site (ideally it would be managed by @apgreimann so the devs would not need to manage yet another thing).
We were actually talking about a hardware compatibility list for Haiku on the Haiku Marketing thread (I’d forgotten about this list) so reviewers and new users can check what hardware works best. I will link this thread in the reviewer’s information sheet for easy reference and I’ll also add it in any future informational materials I produce.
Wouldn’t maintaining links in webpositive and the desktop equate to the same thing? Seems to me that the devs then would have to vet each ressource, and especially define one as official over any other one. What’s wrong with keeping it accesible in the forum like it is now?
GERMAN language would be helpful to me!
Generally mother tongue of the author + english (if it is not the mother tongue)!
BeSly System Analysis Tool (among others):
I click on the start symbols (individually) and they get a red border (difficult to see depending on the screen display) = selected? Unfortunately, I can’t deselect = the red border remains and is therefore selected?
If so, that (and other things) can easily lead to incorrect ‘results’.
Well hey I don’t have the only hardware page; another one I know of is BeSly with its system analysis tool And idk if my page is “officially sanctioned” or not, I’ve just been listing whatever comes into the form now and then as a unofficial community thingamabob. What the heck does OT mean?
Yeah I get what you’re saying — might not be a bad idea to have more than just form output, usually when a new release is out I reorganize stuff, so maybe when Beta 3 is out I could spend a free day looking at the hardware ratings then put something like maybe some stats on what works the best (like what brand, etc.)
Ah okay wasn’t sure if this meant off topic or old timer (which I’m not – although I probably write like one lol) or yet another meaning, and it had me confused
I agree with a universal hardware list, but idk, maybe the community should decide what they’d want to use; I don’t want to make my list the ‘default’ for anyone, really, and tbh it’s still a work in progress (but then I get that Haiku is too). When Beta 3 comes out I’ll need to totally overhaul the hardware list – add some stats to make this more of a serious effort (there’s a lot of info, but what runs best with Haiku? What doesn’t?), translate strings, that sort of thing.
I think your list is doing great and is totally fine as the “official” one. We should just link to it from the main website or host a copy/“rendering” of it there (it shouldn’t be too hard, I think the list is provided in json format for that purpose)
A desktop app to browse the listi s not a great idea because the point is having the list for people who want to buy a computer specifically to run Haiku - quite likely they don’t already have one.
As for collecting the data, well, do whatever you want. Please coordinate with apgreimann and don’t start a new list however.
Model: MacBook Pro 13 (2020) - see review notes Rating: 4/4 - Haiku works with all (or nearly all) components
Cam status: Built-in cameras and/or webcam works
Review notes: Unsure if this is truly a 2020 or if this report is totally accurate. SD card reader mentioned as working here where USB C MBPs generally don’t have one; pen input mentioned and will assume this is referring to a Wacom tablet.
Model: DisplayNote Montage Rating:fairly well (some components work, but some do not) Version: R1/beta2 32-bit Startup media: Samsung SE-S084F Slim External DVD-Writer, 256GB SSD Started with: UEFI Boot options: Normal Boot CPU: Intel i5 Processor 4 Cores GPU: Intel HD Graphics Networking cards: Wireless: idualwifi7260, Ethernet: rtl81xx USB types: USB 3.0 Memory: 8 GB CPU manufacturer: Intel Share on GitHub: Yes Sound status: Sound works Networking status: Ethernet works, Wifi does not connect Graphics status: Graphics work natively/out of the box Restarting: Works fine Contributor: Dan Wood Contribution date: 02/03/2021