I’m looking for OS to eventually replace XP Pro SP2. I taught myself on public computers about two years ago, so my knowledge is limited. If I understand Haiku correctly, it will not run on AMD64 type PCs like Athlon II (X2, X3, X4) or Phenom II (X2, X3, X4). Correct? If so, is there any BeOS that can handle these x64 PCs?
Haiku will only (so far) on modern platform and not on older Athlons. BeOS will run on an Atlon computer but I don’t know where you can get it anymore.
One thing you could do is to run it virtually on an Athlon but the performance won’t be there.
My 1055t phenom II x6 cpu works just fine. its all about the motherboard and the chipset and hardware combination.
BeOS Max acutally runs on my sempron 3100+ computer which is 64bit. It just depends on a combination of things… for instance the particular graphics card I have in there only does black and white on BeOS.
Haiku of course runs on alot of newer computers and most of the old ones.
Obviously is running on 32 Bit mode (as BeOs thet never known of 64 Bit X86)…
Haiku works with newer & older AMD CPUs. You just have to be careful on your motherboard chipset. Haiku does not work with certain chipsets but I don’t have a list to tell you which. So, you have to try and see for yourself. If you already have the computer, then download & burn ISO. You can boot CD (live-CD mode) and test Haiku out.
BeOS & Haiku both run in 32-bit mode. Neither one is 64-bit OS. Sometime later on Haiku will have 64-bit OS version too.
BeOS supports multiple CPU systems but would not work with multi-core. I was able to run BeOS on dual Pentium_II & Pentium_III computers but not on my dual core Atom.
What motherboard are you using? So that we can also see what chipset you’re using.
I am using Haiku temporarily at a Medion E1212 netbook having two processors (kernels) activ: Intel Atom 1.60 GHz.
Still I am waiting for a new Haiku alpha/beta release, which priories a dedicated set of development tools and libraries.
What motherboard are you using? So that we can also see what chipset you’re using.[/quote]
M4n78pro ASUS Geforce 8300 chipset, everything works except for video mode setting.
As I understand it, AMD64-type CPUs will run both 32 & 64 bit software, so will Haiku run on this or not? I’m preparing to get first home PC via custom-build shop. It will have three hard disk drives (one for XP Pro, one for Linux Mint 7, and one to test out the obscure OSs like Haiku, Syllable, Menuet, ect.). So I’m trying to figure out exact minimum & maximum hardware requirements for each OS, so I can have PC that will run all. I’m not too keen to get the PC, pop in Haiku, and just hope it will work.
Any 64-bit CPU can run either a 32-bit or 64-bit OS. Haiku currently is 32-bit. Haiku will run on any x86 (Intel/AMD/Via) CPU from Pentium to the newest ones out there. Some people run it with Phenom II and Core i7.
You don’t need 3 disk drives. In fact, that’ll use more system power. You just need 1 drive of good size. A drive can be split into different partitions (sections) to run different OSes. I mostly run 3 OSes off 1 disk drive. I ran 6 OSes on another drive in another system.
The minimum specs you should have for good system performance:
Windows XP, Linux, Haiku - 1 GB RAM, any dual core CPU
Windows 7 - 2 GB RAM, any dual core CPU
You can go higher than these. I’d say 4GB RAM is ideal. You can go less but I wouldn’t.
Avoid AMD chipset motherboards! Some issues reported with these. Go for Intel or Nvidia chipset motherboards which are more likely to work with Haiku. Only other things that may or may not work are sound & WiFi depending on your motherboard choice.
Well, I guess this could be considered rude and nosey, but I gotta ask anyway…any chance you could detail your hardware setup? Knowing for 100% certain exactly what Haiku does run on would give baseline idea; or worst case scenario, I could just copycat your setup, as it sounds like you have close to what I had originally planned on. Also, sorry for this newbie dumb question, but what does the “video mode setting” do, and any idea what’s preventing yours from working?
Sorry for that dumb question! I obviously don’t understand just what it means when Haiku or Wikipedia websites say that this OS does not support x86-64…thought that meant it wouldn’t run on AMD64 architecture…even though I had heard that AMD64 would run BOTH 32 & 64-bit software. I’m easy to confuse! If there is any way to run it on Athlon II (x3,x3, or x4) or Phenom II (x2, x3, or x4), I want to do this; and avoid Intel/NVIDIA brands if at all possible. I know about the partitioning stuff already. As I understand it, if you put two operating systems on one HDD via partitioning, then if one OS goes ‘belly-up’ it takes the other OS down with it. Needless to say, I don’t much favor that risk. With separate HDDs, the loss of one does not mean the loss of all. I’m planning on one mobile-rack HDD for XP Pro (with Xandros waiting on another disk for when it goes into catastrophic failure). Second mobile-rack HDD to test out the obscure OSs, as they may be no more safe or reliable than Microsoft junk. Third regular (internal) HDD for Linux Mint 7, to isolate it from any mayhem caused by the other operating systems.
XP Pro is the only Microsoft product I’ll ever use, and wouldn’t use it if I had a choice. That’s the point of the other OSs…to find replacement for XP Pro I can live with. I would like to insure having sound, but Wi-Fi is nonissue. I would not have anything wireless in my home, as I’m big on security/privacy.
Yes it’ll run on Athlon 2 or Phenom 2. The CPU is not the issue for Haiku. The motherboard chipset is the issue! AMD chipset boards have issues!!! When you buy a motherboard it will use Intel, AMD or Nvidia chipset. There is also Via & SiS chipsets which people don’t buy or care for anymore. Haiku has a booting bug with AMD chipsets (this refers to motherboard) not to confuse this with AMD CPUs.
For 3 drives. It depends. You have two possible ways to install. In both cases you install one OS to each drive but the difference is a) you install one bootloader to one drive to boot all your OSes or b) you install each bootloader to each drive. If you go with a) then you face the same issue as having one drive. If you go with b) then you can avoid any issue but you use the BIOS or F12 key to choose your boot drive when booting other OSes.
Good chance you’ll get sound but hard to tell until you try out the system.
thatguy has M4n78pro ASUS Geforce 8300 chipset motherboard. No video setting because that requires a graphics driver. Haiku only supports older graphics cards with graphics drivers and uses VESA driver for all newer video cards. VESA limits the resolutions you can select. So, if you want 1600x1200 you may get stuck with 1024x768. Notice his board is Nvidia chipset (Geforce 8300).
Well, I guess this could be considered rude and nosey, but I gotta ask anyway…any chance you could detail your hardware setup? Knowing for 100% certain exactly what Haiku does run on would give baseline idea; or worst case scenario, I could just copycat your setup, as it sounds like you have close to what I had originally planned on. Also, sorry for this newbie dumb question, but what does the “video mode setting” do, and any idea what’s preventing yours from working?[/quote]
m4n78ro Asus motherboard.
1055t thuban cpu
6gb of ddr2 1066 ram.
no driver for video mode setting for anything newer then 7xxxx series nvidia and 9000 series radeons.
Mode setting is being able to properly set screen resolution.
any detailed questions can be answered by looking up the motherboard chipset. The mother board IGP does not support Haiku except in vesa mode.
Well, I guess this could be considered rude and nosey, but I gotta ask anyway…any chance you could detail your hardware setup? Knowing for 100% certain exactly what Haiku does run on would give baseline idea; or worst case scenario, I could just copycat your setup, as it sounds like you have close to what I had originally planned on. Also, sorry for this newbie dumb question, but what does the “video mode setting” do, and any idea what’s preventing yours from working?[/quote]
m4n78ro Asus motherboard.
1055t thuban cpu
6gb of ddr2 1066 ram.
no driver for video mode setting for anything newer then 7xxxx series nvidia and 9000 series radeons.
Mode setting is being able to properly set screen resolution.
any detailed questions can be answered by looking up the motherboard chipset. The mother board IGP does not support Haiku except in vesa mode.[/quote]
Many thanks for the info. I will study it closely, and compare it to what I see on the haikuware site.