A must have list for a media OS

Every one knows BeOS lacks a good collection of Powerful apps…
It was due to the sudden death of Be.

Now since HAIKU is on the way, there are hopes for us…

:idea: BeOS lacks a good image viewer (Like ACDsee for windows (Picasa can also be considered in the case of image organiser) ) , and a Powerful fullfledged mediaplayer, VLC is not perfect its not native and is slow, its buggy too.

:idea: Good video codecs were absent in BeOS, DV files cannot be played.

:idea: The success of Linux in Desktop began with the GIMP , the powerful Image editor which was distributed freely with all distributions…
Some powerful multimedia apps will power up HAIKU…

These form some of the integrtal parts of a media OS.

:idea: Since more and more different technologies are used to connect internet, support for Internal modem and connectivity through GPRS must be supported, and also irDA.

:idea: Net+ve is outdated. mozilla/firefox are slow to load and is heavy, no BeOS specific features are available on them… a new browser will sure accelerate the spirit of the community…

:idea: Tracker with support for thumbanil previews and SVG icons like zeta will be a good plus point.

:idea: And finally, hope the HAIKU’s GUI style will be similar to the BeOS Dano/BONE (or an option to switch it will be much better).

I think there should be should be some software included with a successful OS:

(I think some of those are included in the CVS already)

  1. www browser
  2. email client
  3. IM client
  4. text editor
  5. calculator
  6. a media player (for various video and audio also streaming)
  7. an image viewer (some image editing features couldn’t hurt)
  8. FTP client
  9. sound recorder
  10. DV capture
    etc.

ok there must be more — But is there a list of apps to be included in
Haiku R1? Is it going to have its own web browser?

I think the more powerful software should be separate from the OS.

Not sure about the browser, just know we don’t have the code for NetPositive. I believe Firefox (my vote) or Mozilla will be the default.

There was an article about browsers http://news.beosjournal.org/index.php?id=763&page=2

I wish there was a browser alternative to mozilla - something that uses KHTML code.

:idea: Various audio codecs: mpc, ogg, mp3, aac, ape, flac, shn. And support for cuesheets with audio files :slight_smile:

Multimedia codecs are pretty easy to take care of, i believe there’s already a whole heap written and committed. Although last time I checked the new codec API wasn’t documented and was subject to change. From memory everything from FLAC to OGG to MP3 on the audio front was taken care of.

Ogg Theora would also be nice to have for video codecs.

IIRC Andrew placed an Ogg video (.ogm file?) at WalterCon–correct me if I’m wrong, though.

Theora is already supported

Currently:
MP3, RAW, Theora, Speex, Vorbis, AC3 and anything that ffmpeg (libavcodec) supports are supported, in MP3, Ogg, AVI, WAF, AIFF and AU containers

forget all that stuff.

Before you even get any of it you need the developer tools to be able to build such tools/apps/codecs.

Things like version control: CVS and Subversion
Things like compilers: gcc, OpenWatcom C++(?) etc
Things like IDEs: BeIDE (can we get the source from Metrowerks??), Codeleige, MeTOS…

Then we can look at the things you want.
cheers
peter

The best media player in the world, VLC, is already built and maintained for BeOS.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Oh look, a BeOS download button =)

kurtis wrote:
The best media player in the world, VLC, is already built and maintained for BeOS.

:lol: That’s a good one. Maybe when they can figure out how to copy the working overlay code from nplay. … but seriously, vlc is a half-way decent standover until we get our media player up and running.

Andrew

kurtis wrote:
The best media player in the world, VLC, is already built and maintained for BeOS.

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Oh look, a BeOS download button =)

Now they just need a Haiku download button :wink:

I’m working on a MediaPlayer app using the Media Kit, its almost on par with MediaPlayer which ships with R5, minus some sound sync issues. Once that is resolved, I’ll donate it to the community…

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There was an article about browsers http://news.beosjournal.org/index.php?id=763&page=2

I wish there was a browser alternative to mozilla - something that uses KHTML code.

I’ve been fighting a losing battle with Gecko and KHTML/WebCore for a while now.

WebCore is well beyond me, as it’s written in Objective C.

The code which the BeOS gecko embedding widget is based on, has also been giving me recent problems; QNX Photon’s API. I’m nowhere near the talent, knowledge, or experience of most Haiku/BeOS devs and it’s showing in my lack of progress.

Some people have expressed interest in helping , but with all beos devs are currently engaged in other and more important projects.

ANY help is well appreciated.

Most of the BeOS API specific parts deal with BMessengers and BMessages to replace QNX Photon’s Callback routines.

in short, i know its futile to try doing this solo, but i’m still gonna try.[/b]

awesome job on the site! very exciting to see the project moving forward. here’s my personal little list for what i feel the “Media OS” essentials are, for me anyway.

-serious MIDI support (like Core MIDI in OS X) with support for current hardware

-support for Firewire hard disks, like my Lacie 160GB that doesn’t work in R5

-support for professional USB and Firewire soundcards

-support for DVD burners etc

Non Media Things:

-an easy access “Force Quit” feature to kill hung apps

-AIM support using current protocols

The “Force Quit” feature is already there in R5. Just hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete and you’ll have a list of running processes. The only grief I have with the current implementation is that it’s automatically closed after killing a process. I would like to be able to kill multiple processes without opening the panel several times. Just don’t implement the auto-close feature and I’m happy.

AIM will be supported by the ImKit.

Try the vulcan death grip - hold all the keys in the lower left of the keyboard (Ctrl, Shift, Win, Alt) and just click on the app’s entry in the Deskbar.

bogomipz wrote:
...AIM will be supported by the ImKit.

i hope it’s good. BeAIM doesn’t let me log in because my screen name contains “@” because it’s one of those dot mac email addresses. BeAIM doesn’t seem to like that at all.

tb100 wrote:
Try the vulcan death grip - hold all the keys in the lower left of the keyboard (Ctrl, Shift, Win, Alt) and just click on the app's entry in the Deskbar.

Nice! I did not know this one! :slight_smile: